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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 02, 2008, 02:05:17 PM »
HenryCase : oops, sorry for not replying earlier. It definitely sounds great !

However, I wonder if the second amiga joystick button will be mapped ?
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2008, 07:50:03 PM »
@mahen
Yep, certainly sounds great. :-)

Toni did mention that he only had one button working when he tried it out on an Amiga, mentioned the DB9 port being a limiting factor. However, IIRC I had joysticks for my Amiga that plugged into the same type of port and had two action buttons, so I don't think there is anything limiting in the design for one button only.
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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2008, 09:07:56 PM »
Indeed, the CD32 db9 Gamepad has even 8 buttons :)
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2008, 09:13:09 PM »
For those interested, I have the second button working now on the PSX64 interface (this affects Amigas and Sega Master Systems).  It maps Fire 1 to X and Fire 2 to Square on the Playstation.  I tested it out with a little Mortal Kombat II action on my A1200, looks good!  

That marks the last update as well, so now the final revision is off to the PCB printers.  Thanks for the input of adding button 2 support. :)
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2008, 01:56:37 PM »
Good news :)

BTW, has anyone tested the PSX64 adapter with a Minimig ? :)
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2009, 09:19:19 AM »
I'd like to use my X-arcade controller with amiga, but PSX64 seems to be unavailable there days :/ any thoughts where to get it?
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2009, 05:12:58 PM »
PSX64/Shredz64 adapters are completely crap compared to a real Playstation to AMIGA CD32 ADAPTER. Why are you all trying so hard to come up with the solution when it's already been pointed out in leirbag28's post way up the top of this thread?

Do you only want to be able to use one or two buttons, or do you want to be able to use SEVEN (six plus the Play/Start button)? There are adapters that remap every one of the Playstations buttons and analogue control sticks to Amiga CD32 buttons and mouse movements. Forget those adapters that are designed for other systems, you're just limiting yourself!

Get a real Playstation-to-CD32 adapter and solve all the problems you'll ever have for playing native games on any Amiga. These things plug into the standard DB9 joystick ports, just in case anyone was still thinking of the ancient parallel adapters that came out in the 90s and were only supported by a few Amiga games.

And for those people who probably still don't understand, YES you can use a CD32 controller in an Amiga that isn't a CD32. This means any Playstation/Playstation2 compatible joystick/controlpad/steeringwheel/mouse/guitar will work on any classic Amiga with a joystick or mouse port on it.

You can see these adapters in action here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apd_H6gcgAs&feature=channel_page

You can also contact Paul on YouTube and ask if he can make an adapter for you. We're currently in the process of trying to arange a bulk lot of these adapters to be manufactured so anyone can readily buy them and use any PS2 controller on their Amigas.

I'd also like to point out to anyone looking for one, that you can get far cheaper arcade style joysticks than the X-Arcade that are still high quality (I don't mean the cheap plastic ones), so the X-Arcade isn't the ONLY option for decent quality arcade joysticks these days, it's just the one that's been marketed to you best.
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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2009, 05:50:04 AM »
I think being able to map all the buttons is awesome - but I think calling my adapter "complete crap" is kind of rude.  The PSX64 was originally designed to interface the guitar hero controller to the Commodore 64, and I added in functionality for the Amiga.  And most people are buying it for the Commodore (I suspect?  A good amount have bought it for the Amiga too though).  

But what I'm saying is, we're a small community as it is, and the hardware hackers in it are even smaller in number.  I think we should at least be respectful of one another's projects, if not friendly to each other.
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2009, 09:29:27 AM »
Yep, not really kind denigrating other ppl's work :)

Anyway, did anyone test either the PSX64 or Paul's adapter...

1) on a Minimig ?
2) with an X-Arcade controller ?

I also wonder whether there's an additional latency or not. When I use the stick with the PS/2 (kbd) interface on the PC, keys seem to be triggered instantly. With the additional USB adapter from X-Gaming, there's definitely a little delay. I wonder how responsive it could get with the PSX2 adapter + PSX64/Paul's adapter...

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2009, 12:36:46 PM »
For the PSX64, response is pretty spot on - this was something I worked on for a while.  When you plug in a controller, it automatically does a timing auto-calibration to see how fast it can poll the controller before it starts getting crap back (each controller can only be clocked so fast) - so you're always guaranteed to get the fastest response possible for that controller.

Also, I know one person who bought two and hooked them both up to his Minimig - he had a pretty cool setup, he posted the pictures around here somewhere, I will look for them.

And it works fine with the X-Arcade, I tested it out with the X-Arcade TankStick
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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2009, 02:54:21 PM »
thanks for answers, guys. just one button should be enough for me (okay, there are few CD32 games that are worth playing) so my decision will depend on actual availability and prize. Cheers =)
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2009, 03:26:47 AM »
Megaboz, I apologise if my post seemed harsh, my intention wasn't to disrespect you or your adapter, which I'm sure does its job perfectly. I just felt that it needed to be pointed out that a much more suitable solution had already been mentioned. I feel bad for using the word "crap", I was just annoyed by how everyone ignored a post about an adapter that has been specifically designed for making use of all the features of the Playstation pad for any Amiga game, with mouse support, guitar support, dance mat, everything.

Personally I prefer to use all available buttons for my games. My first Amiga was the CD32, so I've always been used to having 6 control buttons and a Pause/Play button to use in my games. When I play games like Fightin' Spirit or Super Street Fighter II, I need those extra punch and kick buttons, so naturally an adapter that was designed to support these extra buttons for this system seems like the ideal option since there are all those extra buttons on the X-Arcade.

I believe the PSX64 is still a marvellous little adapter, and Shredz64 looks like an awesome game. I'm sure if anyone wanted to play Shredz, any C64 game, or any classic Amiga game that only requires 1-2 buttons then the PSX64 should do the job just fine.
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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2011, 07:44:53 PM »
Hey guys,

did any of you have a try meanwhile ? Is there any visible lag when using 2 adapters at the same time (X-A->PSX PSX->Amiga) ?

Cheers !
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2011, 09:52:19 PM »
I bought two shredz adapters from tony 2 years ago so i could use them with wireless psx pads. Not yet tested it, though :) I will test it with my replay board and the minimig.
 

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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2011, 03:16:20 AM »
Megaboz

You are right, its a cool project and we are thankful for devs like you. Its not complete crap just crap??  just kidding man keep up the work and thanks!
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Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2011, 10:47:51 PM »
Woohoo, I finally had the opportunity to test an X-A on my Amiga 1200 by using both X-A -> PSX and PSX -> Amiga adapter by Paul W.

It seems to work like a charm. I still have to check if there is any noticeable delay.

Well, what sucks, though, is that the X-A I acquired got damaged (badly packaged), and it seems that the "up direction" is triggered too quickly (you barely have to make any movement at all ; thus, for instance, the characters jump without your wanting it which is especially dangerous in Jim Power :).

Well, maybe it can be tuned or maybe the micro-switch can be replaced. Too bad I suck at electronics ;)
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