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AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« on: February 05, 2017, 09:24:52 AM »
Which one is better for WB2.1 with SCSI CD drive? :hammer:
 

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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 08:44:05 PM »
I like the Asimware...it is easy to install and has lots of other great tools!
 

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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 10:16:57 PM »
Been a while since I ran a 2.1 system, but I also recommend Asim.
 

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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2017, 12:27:56 AM »
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Which one is better for WB2.1 with SCSI CD drive? :hammer:

            AsimCDFS worked great with easy setup for me and helped me to get the CDDA game music to play properly with a supported CD-Rom.
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2017, 09:48:55 PM »
Just tried AsimCDFS 3.10 but when I enable "Amiga Audio" in its CD player program, it can't transfer music to Amiga well :(
 

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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2017, 10:17:31 PM »
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Just tried AsimCDFS 3.10 but when I enable "Amiga Audio" in its CD player program, it can't transfer music to Amiga well :(

You need a fast CPU for that.  From your other threads I gather you're trying to do this with a 68000.  I'd start here:

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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 11:40:52 PM »
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2017, 12:55:48 AM »
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Just tried AsimCDFS 3.10 but when I enable "Amiga Audio" in its CD player program, it can't transfer music to Amiga well :(


What that option does is transfer the CD audio over the data cable (SCSI) rather than the analog outputs on the drive. There's some CPU-intensive data conversion required, which is why you're getting choppy output and a slow system.

If you can capture the analog audio directly from the CD drive then that option won't be necessary. And you'll be able to get CD audio from applications other than AsimTunes as well (i.e., games). I think this thing from Amigakit will do the trick and mix the Amiga audio and CD audio into one set of outputs. Amigakit sells another cable that just gives you RCA outputs from the CD drive so you can connect CD audio externally to an existing mixer.

If you've got a lot of audio sources, something like this Rolls mixer might be a good choice. I use one to merge Paula, a Sunrize 516, and a OneStopMusicShop. There's also a cheaper unpowered version that might work. You'll need a lot of Y-cables, though :)
 

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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2017, 01:15:10 AM »
@Matt_H

I second that; a mixer box is required for a A1200 type machine. With big box Amigas the mixer is built in (the sound module on A4000T has custom header but a PC cable will work if the pins are switched), you just need the CDDA cable. Other than that you need to make sure the CD-Rom is a MMC compliant drive and your good to go for Amiga CD games including Napalm, Another World 2, Exodus: The Last War etc! It felt great hearing the Napalm sondtrack for the first time through the Amiga speakers rather than on a CD-player back when I couldn't figure it out :-)
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2017, 02:44:52 PM »
I'll add my own recommendation for AsimCDFS.  I've used it for years, mostly because I'm old and don't like change, but also because it suits my needs perfectly and has "just worked".
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2017, 03:23:08 PM »
I'm going to jump here and ask another question.

Where can you download/buy the most recent version of AsimCDFS?

I see aminet has an older version, but would prefer to go with the most recent version.
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2017, 03:44:00 PM »
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I'm going to jump here and ask another question.

Where can you download/buy the most recent version of AsimCDFS?

I see aminet has an older version, but would prefer to go with the most recent version.


Best bet's gonna be the EAB FTP server. :hammer:
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2017, 03:49:24 PM »
CacheCDFS is most used. My vote for it.
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2017, 04:00:26 PM »
Quote from: curtis;822328
I'm going to jump here and ask another question.

Where can you download/buy the most recent version of AsimCDFS?

I see aminet has an older version, but would prefer to go with the most recent version.
@curtis

I got a fairly recent release from Softhut in the US shortly before they became an eBay discount merchant ;-) A very worthwhile import along with a MMC compliant slot loading CD-Rom drive :-)

From: http://wikivisually.com/wiki/SCSI_Multimedia_Commands
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SCSI Multimedia Commands (MMC) defines a SCSI/ATAPI based command set for accessing multimedia features on devices capable of such functionality. T10 subcommittee is responsible for developing it as well as other SCSI command set standards.
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Re: AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS or AmiCDFS
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2017, 04:07:58 PM »
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Which one is better for WB2.1 with SCSI CD drive? :hammer:



Well, actually AmiCDFS is the only one which is available to you semi-legal.

AsimCDFS is a commercial product. Unfortunately you cannot buy it any more.
CacheCDFS is a commercial product. You get it if you buy either OS 3.5, OS 3.9 or IDE-fix (a.k.a. IDE-max).
AllegroCDFS is a commercial product. You get it if you buy a matching hardware from Elbox, but it needs this hardware as a dongle, otherwise it does not run.
AmiCDFS is shareware, but I think the author no longer cares.

There is also BabelCDFS, but it's targeted more towards WB 1.3.