Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week

[Franko]

We have had the Commodore bv machines, the tulip c64 the c64 dtv, and various amiga entities, and noone interested in the tech has been confused.

I think Red should make this tour as low key, low agression as possible, asking the guy to rename his entire product line is a bit pushy, especially since he paid for the ability to name the products what he did.

Red, I think you are just about the perfect person to do this. I look forward to your report.

Well from the Fan Page on CUSAs own site plenty of folk seem confused...

I'm not in a position to either demand or push the owner for a name change I am merely ask him to consider it that's all...

[KThunder]

Well from the Fan Page on CUSAs own site plenty of folk seem confused...

I'm not in a position to either demand or push the owner for a name change I am merely ask him to consider it that's all...

And you are entitled to that, but I think he licensed the names and stuff specifically so he could use them. c64dtv isnt confusing I guess, unless you don't know what the dtv stands for.

This might not be the time for that, but a carefully worded suggestion might be ok.

[don27dog]

Well from the Fan Page on CUSAs own site plenty of folk seem confused...

I'm not in a position to either demand or push the owner for a name change I am merely ask him to consider it that's all...

Why in the world would he change the name ? I think you grossly underestimate the value of the name(s). There are thousands and thousands old users out there that loved their systems back in the day that have no clue that winuae, morphos, aros exc.. even exist. Hell I was one of them until a few years ago when I was stuck at my parents house for the holidays bored out of my mind and decided to dig my old amiga gear out of the attic. Once I started playing with it I was hooked again and found you guys and started catching up with what had been going on for the past 12+ years. This community is so broken and segmented that no one can how much potential the Commodore name still has. Outside of this community no one knows Sam, Pegasos, Minimig, Natami, Morphos, Aros exc... but you can bet you ass they know Commodore and Amiga !!!

[runequester]

Within reason.

Mine are pretty specific, so you can bring them or not, as you find most reasonable for the conversation.
 
Basically specifics about what the "amiga" machines will run.
 
Linux distro yay/nay
What distro will it be based off ? Will it use Deb or RPM for packages?
What modifications will it include?
Will it be based on an existing desktop environment with a different theme (gnome, kde etc) or be a unique environment?
If its debian based, will there be repo's specific to this distro?
Will the OS be entirely open source or open source with proprietary parts added?
 
Any other info they can provide.

[Franko]

Why in the world would he change the name ? I think you grossly underestimate the value of the name(s). There are thousands and thousands old users out there that loved their systems back in the day that have no clue that winuae, morphos, aros exc.. even exist. Hell I was one of them until a few years ago when I was stuck at my parents house for the holidays bored out of my mind and decided to dig my old amiga gear out of the attic. Once I started playing with it I was hooked again and found you guys and started catching up with what had been going on for the past 12+ years. This community is so broken and segmented that no one can how much potential the Commodore name still has. Outside of this community no one knows Sam, Pegasos, Minimig, Natami, Morphos, Aros exc... but you can bet you ass they know Commodore and Amiga !!!

You think wrong then...

Until June of last year I have since 1982 only ever used Commodore computers on a daily basis (and still do), so to me the names/brands/trademarks really mean something to me, so where you get the idea from that I "grossly underestimate" the value of these brands, gawd only knows...

[KThunder]

You think wrong then...

Until June of last year I have since 1982 only ever used Commodore computers on a daily basis (and still do), so to me the names/brands/trademarks really mean something to me, so where you get the idea from that I "grossly underestimate" the value of these brands, gawd only knows...

We all want different things. Some of us want C64 Phenom II 6 core monster pcs with a fancy chicken lips logo. Others want a 1982 vintage c64 with a tape drive. Others want pretty much everything in between those extremes.

CUSA, like it or not, has the license to use the Commodore name etc. If they are successful CUSA will make some people very happy, and others less so.

Give them a shot.

[Franko]

Well it's 2:34am here and I'm off to have my dinner then go to bed, so if you think I think something I'll answer it later...

I'd be happy to give them a chance if only they would answer the questions folk are asking them...

Need some grub & time to catch up on some WWE (well someones gotta watch it...

Now there's a thought "WWE" Word Wrestling Entertainment, formerly WWF (World Wrestling Federation) the fight over that brand (WWF) raged for over 25 years between "World Wresting Federation" & "World Wildlife Fund", World Wildlife Fund won in the end, wonder how long this saga will continue...

[coldfish]

We all want different things. Some of us want C64 Phenom II 6 core monster pcs with a fancy chicken lips logo...
Give them a shot.

The bleeding edge PC with a C= logo has been done and it barely raised a blip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_Gaming

[kolla]

@red
Could you ask if they have any plans for some real Amiga keyboards? I mean something like A2000/3000/4000 keyboards, correctly located alt and Amiga keys, ctrl on the right place (the caps I could not care less about), del and help... good old classic keyboard - only with USB. I'm sure I'm not the only one who find it akward to use PC keyboards on Amiga systems.

[runequester]

@red
Could you ask if they have any plans for some real Amiga keyboards? I mean something like A2000/3000/4000 keyboards, correctly located alt and Amiga keys, ctrl on the right place (the caps I could not care less about), del and help... good old classic keyboard - only with USB. I'm sure I'm not the only one who find it akward to use PC keyboards on Amiga systems.

heck, id buy one of those for my regular PC

[Manu]

@red

Wish him good luck with the C64x sales.

[MaximvsPayne]

i transformed all my peecee keyboards into amiga-keyboards with the help of these little beasts. now all my keyboards are looking pretty cool!


http://shop.alinea-computer.de/images/amiga_tasten.png">


another good alternative is the a-eon keyboard. ok guys, these 2 solutions dont have the original layout but they are available and work pretty good.


http://www.shop.alinea-computer.de/images/a1_tastatur.png">

[MaximvsPayne]

what the..? no html allowed?... damn

[lsmart]

heck, id buy one of those for my regular PC

I just recently ordered a KeyRah to use an old Amiga as a USB-keyboard for my SAM. With the Catweasle you can connect A2000/A3000/A4000 keyboards to regular PCs as well. So no need to wait. Get yours today ;-)

[Amiga_Nut]

I am local to Barry Altman and Commodore USA. I just got off the phone with Barry and he invited me over to see the progress that is being made with the company and on the products. Considering my initial reaction when I heard of this company and it's products was knee-jerk and sharply skeptical, it would only be fair to Barry to take his invitation to see the products, documentation and anything else he would like to show.

I plan on taking pictures where possible and asking questions. I will probably do a full report here on Amiga.org before the end of the week.

Stay tuned...

I am not interested, nothing personal to him and nothing to do with the death of Amiga with Commodore 1994. More to do with the fact he is not selling Amigas/C64s but PCs with Linux and this new fangled Workbench 5 Linux.

[Daedalus]

@red
Could you ask if they have any plans for some real Amiga keyboards? I mean something like A2000/3000/4000 keyboards, correctly located alt and Amiga keys, ctrl on the right place (the caps I could not care less about), del and help... good old classic keyboard - only with USB. I'm sure I'm not the only one who find it akward to use PC keyboards on Amiga systems.

Yep, I find PC keyboards a little awkward with AmigaOS alright - though I do find them fine with Linux

At the moment these are pretty close:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37_95&products_id=973

It is just a modified PC keyboard, but the Alt and Amiga keys are in the right place, has Help marked on the Scroll Lock key (where it normally maps to in AmigaOS) and I'm pretty sure there's a patch somewhere out there to remap Ctrl to the Caps Lock key.