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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 04:34:47 AM »
Is that milspec?
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2008, 05:19:22 AM »
Can you put up pics of her internals when you start your project, and some after pics?  i love restoring old comps and this one looks like a real fun one.  Good luck
 

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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2008, 05:34:39 AM »
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Don't you mean 'I can read the same disks on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo'? Or do these machines all use the same CPU? Isn't the 128 a 6502 (variant), meaning it won't run Z80 binaries?


The 128 has a Z80 for running in CP/M mode.
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2008, 10:30:48 AM »
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a buddy of mine has a made a functional tcp/ip for cp/m among other goodies


Do you think it will run in my TRS80 4P ?
 

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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2008, 11:00:15 AM »
Pffft... That's no good... You cant put an Amiga OS on it! :-D
 

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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2008, 04:47:01 PM »
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Pffft... That's no good... You cant put an Amiga OS on it! :-D


Actually, there was an Amiga emulator for the Spectrum 128.
It did the animated hand and disk bit, then displayed a Guru Meditation error.
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2008, 04:52:03 PM »
What can you do with it? use it as a calculator?  :lol:
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2008, 05:39:09 PM »
I'm sorry to say but TBH, i'm not impressed by it at all. It looks hardly useable.
I guess looking at it from a hardware aspect it's more desirable but I guess thats' just me.
 

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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2008, 05:56:40 PM »
what about CP/M in ZX Spectrum +3 128K, would that tcpip run on that? (my first computer, eh the nostalgia..)
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2008, 05:59:28 PM »
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A cool thing is my C128 also runs CP/M, so I can run the same program on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo :-D


Don't you mean 'I can read the same disks on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo'? Or do these machines all use the same CPU? Isn't the 128 a 6502 (variant), meaning it won't run Z80 binaries?

I remember people touting one of the pluses of MS-DOS was that you could read the same disk on whatever computer was running it, as opposed to CP/M which was meant to be the case, but just wasn't because everyone had their own implementation of CP/M. Microsoft just standardised one variant from the bunch.

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{Bear in mind I am dusting off cobwebs here to the days of yesteryear..}

There were many many many CP/M variants back in the day.(CP/M 2.0, CP/M +, MP/M, oh man..) Isn't the version of CP/M that the 128 uses 3.0?? However Kaypro and the C-128 are very similar and we known to be quite compatable. I messed around with CP/M due to owning a 128 myself - and collected quite a few machines like the Superbrain, Kaypro II, Osborne Executive, and an Epson PX-8 laptop...they were a lot of fun.

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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2008, 06:00:39 PM »
it loox lik3 SX-64 portable 64 :)
 

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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2008, 04:59:21 PM »
I was busy yesterday, but back :-)

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Don't you mean 'I can read the same disks on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo'? Or do these machines all use the same CPU? Isn't the 128 a 6502 (variant), meaning it won't run Z80 binaries?


Others have replied correctly. The C128 also has a Z80 CPU for CP/M mode. I can confirm from first hand knowlege that CP/M binaries are compatability across a wide number of machines, the C128 being one of them.

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I remember people touting one of the pluses of MS-DOS was that you could read the same disk on whatever computer was running it, as opposed to CP/M which was meant to be the case, but just wasn't because everyone had their own implementation of CP/M. Microsoft just standardised one variant from the bunch.


When it comes to the floppy disks themselves, it gets a bit tricker, yes. Most CP/M boxes had their own floppy format that other machines usually could not read. The list of various CP/M floppy types is quite long. A Osborne formatted floppy would not work in a Kaypro, for example.

However, this is where the C128 with 1571(and 1581) shines. The 1571 and 1581 are amazing drives. There is a free program called Juggler that allows C128 CP/M to read and write more than 140 CP/M disk formats. I have used this in the past and it works perfectly. Pretty neat taking my old Televideo Wordstar floppy and running that version of Wordstar on my 128 without a hitch :-D
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2008, 05:30:01 PM »
Won't run Amiga OS4....
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2008, 05:46:31 PM »
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Can you put up pics of her internals when you start your project, and some after pics?  i love restoring old comps and this one looks like a real fun one.  Good luck


I should be able to, if there is interest. I kind of wished I did that with my Televideo..
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2008, 05:48:18 PM »
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Do you think it will run in my TRS80 4P ?


Most likely, if not AJK would likely give a hand making it work.
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Re: I just bought one sweet, sweet computer!
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 11, 2008, 05:51:14 PM »
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what about CP/M in ZX Spectrum +3 128K, would that tcpip run on that? (my first computer, eh the nostalgia..)


More than likely, as long as it has a Z80 cpu. The code may need tweaked for the rs232.
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