I want an Amiga gaming system!

[mepmepmep]

@jjans

I'd love to see a screen shot of an A520 in action

Look, see here. While I agree that it's not as sharp and clear as on a monitor, you cannot state that these games look totally unplayable and that the colors are wrong, right;-) Also know that it looks better in motion than these stills do.

The shots are from an A1200 and its internal RF but the A520 performs equally well.

I agree though that a TV-set is not totally suitable for workbench usage and text-based stuff as small text can get a bit blurry. I've managed that too however;-) My eyes have probably adapted :-D

[mepmepmep]

@mugenakuma

If you anyone could throw out some suggestions for cool 2D Amiga games

Your wish is my command. None of these games will disapoint you, but ofcourse some are especially good. All are A500 compatible. Here we go:

Platformers:
Addams Family (Very good)
Arabian Nights
B.C. Kid
Beyond the Ice Palace (Tough one)
Brian the Lion
Car-Vup
Chuck Rock
Chuck Rock 2: Son of Chuck
Cool Spot
Elf
Fire and Ice
First Samurai, The
Fury of the Furries
Gods (Must have)
Great Giana Sisters, The
Harlequin
Horror Zombies from the Crypt
James Pond
James Pond II: Robocod (Brilliant)
Kid Chaos
Killing Game Show, The
Leander (Beautiful)
Lion Heart (Beautiful)
Magic Pockets (Must have)
Mr. Nutz
Myth
P.P Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon
Parasol Stars
Premiere
Prince of Persia (Must have)
Rainbow Islands (Very good)
Rick Dangerous (Almost a must have)
Rick Dangerous II (Very good)
Rick Dangerous II 1/2 (Very good)
Rodland (Cute)
Ruff'n Tumble
Second Samurai
Soccer Kid
Super Methane Bros.
Super Frog (Very good)
Toki
Venus the Flytrap
Wolfchild
Zool
Zool 2

Shooters:
Agony (Beautiful)
Alien Breed (Very good)
Alien Breed 2 OCS/ECS (Must have)
Alien Breed - Tower Assault (Brilliant)
Apidya
Apidya II
Apocalypse
Awesome (Once an Amiga showcase)
Battle Squadron (Brilliant)
Blood Money (tough one)
Cabal
Cannon Fodder (Must have)
Cannon Fodder - X-mas Edition
Cannon Fodder 2
Cannon Fodder 2 - Alien Levels
Chaos Engine (Must have)
Commando
Data Storm
Deluxe Galaga
Desert Strike
Disposable Hero
Dogs of War
Executioner, The
Fire Power (Needs 2 players)
Fire Power II (Needs 2 players)
Fly Harder
Gloom Deluxe (3D)
Hired Guns
Hybris (Brilliant)
Jetstrike (A bit of strategy too)
Menace
Narc
Narco Police
Operation Thunderbolt
Operation Wolf
Project X (Brilliant)
Project X - Special Edition '93 (Brilliant)
Rampart
R-Type (Must have)
R-Type II (Very good)
Saint Dragon
Scorched Tanks (Needs 2 players, Very good)
Silkworm (Must have)
Smash T.V. (Mayhem)
Starcontrol (Brilliant, atleast with 2 players)
Stardust (Showcase)
Starwoids
Swiv (Brilliant)
Take 'em out
Transplant
TurboRAKETTI
Walker (Very good)
Warzone (Very good)
Wings of Fury (Strategic and very good)
Virus (Very good but extremely difficult)
Worms (Must have)
Xenon II (Very good)
X-Out (Very good)
Z-Out (Very good)
Zarathrusta
Zombie Apocalypse II

Platform shooters:
Assassin
Assassin - Special Edition
Navy Seals
Night Breed - The Arcade Game
Persian Gulf Inferno
Robocop 2
Switchblade II (Brilliant)
Turrican (Very good)
Turrican II (Brilliant)
Turrican 3 (Very good)

Action adventures:
Another World (Must have)
Antheads
Bubba 'n Stix
Cadaver   (Tough but nice)
Cadaver - The Payoff
Chambers of Shaolin
D/Generation
Dragonstone
Elvira II
Entity (Nice atmosphere)
Exile (Tough)
Flashback (Brilliant)
Heimdall (Very good)
Hostages
Hunter (3D)
Immortal, The
Indiana Jones III - The Arcade Game
It Came from the Desert
Jim Power
Last Ninja
Last Ninja II
Last Ninja Remix
Last Ninja III
Lethal Weapon
Lost Patrol, The
Moonstone (Very good)
Robocop 3
Sabre Team (Very good)
Shadow Dancer
Shadow of the Beast (Very good, beautiful)
Shadow of the Beast II (tough)
Shadow of the Beast III
Shinobi
Syndicate (Very good)
Syndicate - American Revolt
Unreal (Nice looking)
Voodoo Nightmare
Paradroid '90

Driving:
Badlands
Indianapolis 500 (Very good)
Indy Heat
Jaguar XJ 220
Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge (Very good)
Lotus III
Lotus Turbo Challenge 2 (Brilliant)
Major Motion
Miami Chase
Micro Machines
Microprose Formula One Grand Prix (Very good)
Nitro (Very good)
No Second Prize
Overdrive
Stunt Car Racer (Must have)
Super Cars (Very good)
Super Cars II (Must have)
Super Off Road (Very good)

Fighting:
Barbarian (Palace)
Best of the Best
Body Blows
Elfmania
Final Fight
Golden Axe
IK+ (3-player mayhem)
Mortal Kombat (Very good)
Mortal Kombat II (Very good)
Panza Kickboxing

Sports:
Aquatic Games, The
Archer Maclean Pool
Brutal Sports Series Football
Football Glory
Goal! (Brilliant)
Great Courts II a.k.a Pro Tennis Tour II (Brilliant)
Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker (Brilliant)
John Madden American Football
Kick Off 2 (Brilliant)
Kick Off 2 - Return to Europe (Brilliant)
Kick Off 2 - The Final Whistle (Brilliant)
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf
PGA Tour Golf (Brilliant)
Projectyle
Sensible Soccer (Brilliant)
Sensible World of Soccer (Brilliant)
Sierra Soccer
Ski or Die
Speedball 2 (Must have)
Wild Wheels
Winter Games
Zany Golf (Brilliant)

Strategy/RPGs:
Battle Isle (Very good)
Battle Isle - The Moon of Chromos (Very good)
Black Crypt
Captive
Carthage
Castles
Celtic Legends
Centurion
Chaos Strikes Back
Civilization (Brilliant)
Defender of the Crown
Dune II (Brilliant)
Dungeon Master
Elite
Escape from Colditz (Very good)
Eye of the Beholder
Eye of the Beholder II
Frontier
Genesia
HeroQuest
K240 (Must have)
Knightmare
Lord of the Rings
Mega-Lo-Mania (Very good)
North & South
Pirates (Brilliant)
Populous (Must have)
Populous - Final Frontier
Populous - Promised Lands
Populous II (Must have)
Populous II - Challenge disk
Ports of Call
Power Monger (Very good)
Power Monger - 1st World War
Railroad Tycoon
Settlers, The (Brilliant)
Shadow Lands
Silent Service
Silent Service II
Sim City (Very good)
Space Crusade (Brilliant)
Space Crusade - The Voyage Beyond
Space Hulk
Supremacy
Theme Park
UFO: Enemy Unknown (Very good)
Utopia (Very good)
Utopia - The New Worlds
Warlords

Flight Sims:
Combat Air Patrol
Dog Fight
Epic
F/A-18 Interceptor (Runs nicely on the A500 and probably the best one too)
F-15 Strike Eagle II
F-29 Retalliator
Falcon
Gunship 2000
Killing Cloud, The
Knights of the Sky
Wings (A classic)

Graphic Adventures:
Beneath a steel sky (heavy disk swapping involved but a brilliant game)
Conquest of Camelot
Conquest of the Longbow
Cruise for a Corpse
Curse of Enchantia
Dark Seed
Deja Vu (Mostly text based, but nice)
Deja Vu II
Dune
Flight of the Amazon Queen (Lotsa disks)
Future Wars (Must have)
Heart of China
Hero's Quest: Quest for Glory
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Indy III - The Graphic Adventure (Very good)
KGB
Kings Quest VI
Leisure Suit Larry (Brilliant)
Leisure Suit Larry 2
Loom (Very good)
Lure of the Temptress (Very good)
Manhunter: New York
Manhunter: San Francisco
Monkey Island 2 (Must have)
Operation Stealth (Must have)
Perihelion
Police Quest 2
Rise of the Dragon
Secret of Monkey Island, The (Must have)
Space Quest (Ugly but brilliant)
Space Quest II (Very good)
Space Quest III
Uninvited
Universe (Very good)
Valhalla
Valhalla II
Valhalla III

Puzzlers, thinkers and misc. arcade:
Arkanoid
Arkanoid 2
Bill's Tomato Game
Brat
Chip's Challenge
Corx
Cover Girl Strip Poker (If this stuff appeals to you;))
Dynablaster (5-player bonanza)
E-Motion
Hollywood Poker Pro (If this stuff appeals to you;))
Klax
Lemmings (Must have)
Lemmings 2 (Brilliant)
Light Corridor, The
Logical
Marble Madness (Very good)
Megaball
Nebulus
Nebulus 2
Night Shift
Oh No! More Lemmings (Brilliant)
One Step Beyond
Paperboy
Paperboy 2
Pinball Dreams (Brilliant)
Pinball Fantasies (Brilliant)
Pong '91 (Needs 2 players)
Push Over
Puzznic
Rock'n Roll
Spindizzy Worlds
Twintris (Brilliant)
Vaxine
X-mas Lemmings '92 (Brilliant)

[mepmepmep]

And if a particular game intrests you. Just look it up here to get some more information on that title!

[HopperJF]

bloody hell a bet that took a while  :-)

[mepmepmep]

@HopperJF
What do you not do for your fellow want-to-become-an-Amigan;-)
And I do believe it's a quite accurate list of some of the best games in the Amiga universe. But to get a hold of those goodies? A whole different story... Definately has to be second hand or CD-collections of some description... Not an easy task.

[HopperJF]

I'm not sure how popular the Amiga was in Sweden
But here iin the UK a lot of secnd hand stores and local markets sell sometmes systems and old games (even if a lot of them are copies)

[mepmepmep]

@HopperJF
The Amiga was very, very poplular in Sweden. If not as popular as in the UK atleast very close. But I have absolutely no idea about the Amiga status in the US where mugenakuma comes from? I get the impression that the Americans in general tends to move on faster and that the Amiga buffs left in the US are much more of buffs than the European buffs, and also not as common;) No harm intended, just an observation!!! ;-) But we shall remember that the Amiga origins from the US and its hard to become a prophet in your own country. Ask a swede if he/she likes ABBA for example;-) Enough of that already!

Second hand stores in the US, hmm. Absolutely no idea. Buying up a stock of illegal copies is ofcourse, the most likely option but that's... Illegal. A lot of really good games have been made free by their producers/publishers ofcourse. I wonder then if it is legal to aquire a pirated copy of a game that has been released from it's copyright by the copyright owner? Well, well... It is not our problem, right;-)

[McTrinsic]

Why the HECK does everyone seem to ignore the Ultima series of RPGs??

The greatest RPG of all time, Ultima IV, rocks on the Amiga!



Have fun,
McTrinsic

[mepmepmep]

@McTrinsic
Sorry, never actually really played it:-( Have had a brief look at Ultima VI but that's it. I cannot state that a game is great if I never tried it, right;-) You've made a welcome addition to the list of great Amiga games:-)

[mugenakuma]

Wow mepmepmep! What a list!

Any reservations about not getting an Amiga due to a lack of game support are completely gone!

Now a MUST get one. Thanks so much for that huge list. I have seen a few screenshots of the games you posted and they look beautiul.
There is something about the Amiga and it's 2D graphics that is so unique, nostalgic and pleasing to the eye.

Right now I have to just get my cash together for a purchase.

As far as Amiga products in the U.S., well....what Amiga products?  Honestly I don't remember seeing ANY Amiga games, or computers, not since I was 12 or 13 years old (over 15 years ago, 1988-1989)
What a shame  :-(
Oh well no problem since I found this board and all the friendly Amiga fans of Europe to help me  :-P

thanks again everyone  :-D

Glenn

[HopperJF]

I don't think the Amiga ever really took off in the US.
Here in the UK, they were in use in professional art studios, video editing businesses etc and still are in some of the most unexpecting of places (MTV UK for example) and were still in youth  bedrooms as games machines until the late 90s.
Then of course there is a whole retro computing taking off in the UK at the moment, with new magazines being released for it, and ebay swarming with old computers and games for this new breed of retro gaming which is emerging

[mugenakuma]

You lucky Brits  :-D

[leirbag28]

@ Jetracer: @leirbag28: There's no such thing as a 16-bit Amiga. It was 32-bit from day one. Busses and custom chips has nothing to do with the definition, only the CPU. The entire 68K family is 32-bit. Calling A500 16-bit is like saying every x86 with SDRAM or DDR is 64-bit.


When I said an A500 is 16 bit, I don't mean in actuallity. I mean it's comparable bottomline to a 16 bit game system...for example:

A500 is somewhat equivalent of a SEGA Genesis
A600 somewhat comparable to a SuperNintendo
A1200 is somewhere between a SNES and a PLAYSTATION

as far as games are concerned.

I believe this to be extremely accurate when it comes to games. yes some amigas can be enhanced to  do much better but I refer to a stock Amiga.

The reason A600 is comparable to a SNES is because it comes with ECS and 1 meg chip but it has to have 2megs to be really comparable.
 
They have Zool, Chaos Engine, Gods, Pinball Fantasies and Turrican for the SNES...and with the exception of Super Turrican, The rest suck! the amiga versions are better or comparable....... mind you the SNES can displa 256 colors on games all the time while very few amiga games have more than 32 or 64 colors......which is why I love Ruff N Tumble, Lionheart, and ElfMania so much, cuz they prove Amiga can take the consoles head on and win...........and a SEGA Genesis can only display a max of 64 colors with seriously awfull resolution.

[mugenakuma]

Well I have found a few ebay auction items that I am interested in.

Below are the links. One is for an A1200 package and the other is an A500.

I would really appreciate everyones input on these packages.  

The A1200 is up to $300+! How much is this worth?

What about the A500 package? Whats the most I should pay for that?

Anyways here are the links.

The A1200
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2785023104&category=4598&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

The A500
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2785597053&category=4598&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1

[aardvark]

Well in My opinion the A1200 would bring more split up into more auctions and is fully kitted out with the exception of being towerized and having a PPC processor :-)

The A500 has a HD which is a plus and 2.0 roms which would allow you to run Workbench 2.1.  So I guess it depends on how cheap you want to be to get your feet wet :-D

Essentially either is a good deal at the current prices.

[mugenakuma]

O.k. so they both look like good setups but what is the most I should pay for either?

The A500?

The A1200?

Just wondering if I should prepare to rack up my credit card bill on the 1200, and if so how much to spend.

thanks

G