Commodore without Mehdi Ali

[Digiman]

There are so many other factors as well, like how long it would have taken to develop the AAA chipset to release status.  Also, I think Commodore's stance of the Amiga primarily being a toy rather than a producitivity-capable machine would have killed it sooner or later.

Or, x86 architecture and related development would have continued exactly as it has, and x86 would still be the cheaper, better performing option it is now.

And what if the Amiga had clung on to its own hardware technologies for too long, leaving behind the advantages of technologies like AGP has to offer?  What is the likeliness of technologies like Zorro slots with only one company's research funding going to be able to match AGP, PCI, PCI-X, etc?

Assuming that Commodore would have made subsequent decisions at the right times, I think they would have ended up with a share like Apple's to the market.  Or maybe Microsoft/Apple might have bought them up by then?  Assuming that didn't happen, and Commodore/Amiga was still in practical existence and profit today, PPC development may be further along the road than it is now, but otherwise I think the picture would look much the same as it is now.

There are times when new ventures of making new technologies is appopriate, but not all the time.  The last decade or so belongs to x86.  Occasionally some new incompatible technology will break the mould and legacy of older compatible technologies, but it doesn't work all the time.

Maybe not, the console market is 100% non x86 and on launch day PS3/360 games shat all over 400% more expensive PC/Mac.

But Commodore fired/lost critical staff even from C64 times (which explains impotence of £400 C128) and 66% of OCS A1000 designers = ECS joke of an upgrade in A3000 which they binned 3 years R&D by Jay Miner AKA Ranger chipset.

Atari without MOS=fail AND Commodore with Jack=fail.

Now had Jack not been forced out his own company he would have ripped the balls off an incompetent bull****er like Ali. And Jack went from PET to C64 in 4 years. All post Tramiel Commodore designed in-house was C128 and 264 series white elephants  *meh*

[Digiman]

Here is another point Commodore failed to notice.

Time of C64 rise coincides with fall of all cart based consoles due to video game crash BUT time of A500 coincided with US fascination of P.O.S. NES (puke) or idiots spending MORE than 512kb A1000 cost on pathetic CGA PCs or 128k mono Mac.

If you look at the total sales the US consumers buying that crap is one of the reasons that......

A. Amiga sold only 9 million less than the 22m C64 for compatibles (inc 5m for 128/128D/PET64/SX64)

B. US Games like Simpsons arcade lovingly programmed for C64 (DOS PCs) but not Amiga. Crazy.

US consumers need to take 1/3 the blame. Gould's 7mhz 68000 'is fast enough for consumers' attitude until 1992 another 1/3 and management decisions like not marketing A1000 for a year in mid 80s another.

Said it before but never again would one computer be as revolutionary as Amiga 1000 in its place among inferior rivals of EGA PC/ST/MAC/8-BIT. The war was over before the 1 millionth A500 was sold.

PS They could have sold A1000s in 1986 direct to consumers dropping RRP by 40% ie how Jack sold PET