New Computer Movie

[SysAdmin]

I know many here are not Steve Jobs fans.  Steve Jobs was shown the original prototype for the first Amiga and said there was "too much hardware" and he took a pass. He was in the midst of work on the Macintosh at the time and was reportedly worried that the Amiga would surpass his plans. Can you imagine what the Amiga would have become if someone like Jobs was in charge of it? The Amiga had great visionaries that created it like RJ Mical and Jay miner but it didn't have  a Jobs type character to promote it. It only had the simi-worthless Commodore management/marketing department.

Anyway the new movie about Steve Jobs is looking like it might be good.

http://jobsthefilm.com/

I'm betting the Amiga won't even get a mention in this movie at all. History is written by the winners.

[mikrucio]

Bah ill pass.

[commodorejohn]

Like we needed more iCult veneration and mythmaking. Feh. Woz was the real genius.

[Gulliver]

Like we needed more iCult veneration and mythmaking. Feh. Woz was the real genius.

I cant agree more. Jobs was just an agressive and successful manager, but not much more than that. The real genius was Woz.

[Duce]

Better off watching Pirates of Silicon Valley.  While no doubts there's a lot of embellishment in it as well, it's a fairly good film.  Same goes for Cringely's PBS Documentary, Triumph of the Nerds:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFL9IyJ_qHk

Or just read iWoz - it's more entertaining and informative than the Jobs book if you're into Apple history.

Some of Woz's comments on this new movie aren't too kind:

http://gizmodo.com/5978777/woz-says-kutchers-steve-jobs-movie-scene-never-happened

[agami]

It's a biopic, not a documentary. The storyteller can take certain creative liberties and choose his or her own palette to colour the tale.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for an engineer of Woz's calibre, we had our own uber geeks in the Amiga hardware and software engineering teams so we recognise the skills. But Woz would achieve far less at HP or any other place he may have moved on from there. We know it wouldn't have worked out at Commodore.

It may not be apt to label Steve Jobs as a sales/marketing genius, but he was more often than not a visionary with some moments of sheer brilliance thrown into the mix, but it was his arrogance and the conviction of his own beliefs that made the difference.

It's actually better to read an impartial view in Malcolm Gladwell's 'Outliers' where you find that neither Steve on his own would have made an impact. A Jobs like personality was definitely missing from the Amiga equation. In many ways it was doomed the second a large corporate machine bought it out.

[commodorejohn]

It's a biopic, not a documentary. The storyteller can take certain creative liberties and choose his or her own palette to colour the tale.

As Woz says in that article, though, there's a big difference between taking liberties for the sake of storytelling and being entirely untrue to the characters. It doesn't matter if I really think Ghandi would've been more interesting if he countered oppression with Sagat's moves from Street Fighter, it would still be dishonest of me to portray my version as representative of the real person.

[Aussiholden]

If any of the facts are true about Jobs in the movie " Pirates of Silicon Valley ", then I think the Amiga boys would of gone way worse than what they admitted they did in the Amiga Documentary " The Deathbed Vigil "

[Drummerboy]

I never was a Steve Jobs or Apple fan, but always is interesting this kind of things.

I read any recent article where The Woz was talking about this movie and he said something, Steve Jobs not was the Hero as want show in this movie.

[commodorejohn]

I read any recent article where The Woz was talking about this movie and he said something, Steve Jobs not was the Hero as want show in this movie.

Shhh! Don't tell the iCult!

[bbond007]

to get into role, emulating Steve Jobs stupid diet landed Ashton Kutcher in the hospital as he nearly exploded his pancreas.

[kamelito]

Woz was the genius engineer behind the Apple I and II but without Jobs he would have probably have stayed at HP.
Jobs was a genius too but not in engineering but he knows enough about that to deliver great products.

Kamelito