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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2003, 01:40:45 AM »
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The Coldfire Project now seems to have a prototype working in an A4000.

Where does it say it's actually working? All I can see is some mock-ups of the card with some components placed on it.

Not trying to put down anyone, but perhaps we should not be over optimistic? :-)

Someone correct me if it is actually working.
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2003, 04:56:14 AM »
Don't forget to make it fit on a desktop A1200!
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2003, 05:13:08 AM »
this would ROCK for a desktop A1200....
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2003, 10:16:17 AM »
I really hope he doesn't try to get it in a desktop A1200. A tower design would be much better. More room for components and a somewhat bigger board can be used that would keep the costs down and would also allow a normal DIMM slot.

This thing is only usefull for when used with a Mediator and a VooDoo 3,4,5 anyway.

Phase 5 should never have tried to make the BlizzardPPC for a dekstop solution also.
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2003, 11:32:28 AM »
Hi,

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Where does it say it's actually working? All I can see is some mock-ups of the card with some components placed on it.

Correct, it isnt working, At the moment its just the power side thats working. (no other components are on)

I dont know why it says the card is actually working.  :-?
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2003, 12:39:53 PM »
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I dont know why it says the card is actually working.


ZONK!:-P

 
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This prototype has Firewire (400mbps), USB (1.1), AC97 sound, SDRam, 150Mhz Coldfire and works in the Amiga 4000 (Actually any Amiga with a fast slot and no other CPU)
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2003, 01:05:54 PM »
Hi,
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ZONK!


Ahh....
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2003, 01:16:55 PM »
@PulsatingQuasar


Couldn't disagree more !!

If I wanted another fast big-box Amiga for RTG-SW, I would just setup an extra PC for Amithlon.


Having that in my 15 or 16  year old A2000 would be COOOOOOL.

Having that in desktop-A1200, and add this (*) to it would be cool beyond believe. Add a SubWay to it, maybe
with a (internel) slimline CD-RW and a USB_2_Etherenet-adapter ... hmmmmmmm.

Having that in yet another PC-tower, would be quite boring.

* a hack that allows to use the internals of a A2024-monitor as some sort of super FF.
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2003, 05:15:29 PM »
@Kronos

I seriously don't see why running something this fast in a desktop A1200 would be usefull.

Next to the the 2 towered A1200 machines with a BlizzardPPC I also have a desktop with a Blizzard-1230-IV and I can really say; AGA for desktop usage sucks.
I have managed to get 800x600 on my M1438 but it only runs acceptable with 64 colors. It's multisync running at 83 Hz.
A desktop with a size of 640x480 is really not acceptable. Both my towered systems run a 1024x768 desktop in 16-bit color @ 75 Hz on 15 inch monitors and that rulez. The Voodoo 3 rulez somewhat more then the BVisionPPC because I can drag as many Windows as I want visible and things begin to stutter with the BVisionPPC when more then 4 are open..

So the only possible usage for something this fast would be with a Mediator and a Voodoo 3,4 or 5. Then you would get a damn fast AmigaOS 3.9. And I would really like to see that.
Without a graphic card you don't really get a full experience of OS 3.9 and with such a fast CPU; it's going to be better then my BlizzardPPC systems.
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2003, 06:15:48 PM »
It depends on what you want:
If you want a fast Amiga to run modern SW, and that based on comnon sense
(hmm Amiga and common sense ? Ain't that contratiction?),than Amithlon or WinUAE is they way to go.

But if you want a geek-toy (and the CF is not gonna be more) you should go for
a real geek-toy ....
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2003, 06:31:33 PM »
Yeah, but that's no fun! I still only use my REAL Amiga's.
I don't run WinUAE and I don't have Amithlon.

And as for a geek toy; An Amiga1200 in a tower with the ColdFire accelarator and PCI slots via the Mediator with a Voodoo and ethernet card is probably the geekiest system. OK then, also a PowerFlyer.

Maybe the PowerFlyer will be really used then and that 16.6 MB/s for PIO 4 will actually be reached!

It's going to be a kick-ass system.
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2003, 06:47:20 PM »
"geekiest system" ??

Sorry but "my" 200+mhz-CF-Amiga with internal CD-RW, etherenet and the possiblility
to run at 1024x800 on the orginal chipest in the orginal case is "geekier" ..... :-D

The difference between a towered Amiga with Voodoo to an A1 or Pegasos is far
to little, and it isn't even used anymore (the A1200-mobo is just there to keep the bits
together, and maybe acts like an IO-card).
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2003, 01:20:56 AM »
It'd be cool if you could put some kind of PCI slot on this; then one could put an updated graphics card in an A2000 :-) (or even sideways on an A1000 :) )
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2003, 01:28:29 AM »
AFAIK the A2000-version is planned with a single PCI-slot.
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2003, 03:32:34 AM »
I hate to be a party pooper, but after reading your (very nice) website, am I the only one that’s worried that something as wonderful as the Coldfire Project is being developed by a man that doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their” or “to” and “too”?

I know a good grasp of English is no reason to doubt your ability to produce this product, but considering that you are British and that developing a CPU card is no walk in the park (if it was that easy and JoannaK is half as good as she claims she is then she’d have made a working version in her sleep by now and we’d all be using them), I find it hard to believe that you make these basic errors.

Perhaps the BoXeR, Iwin and “Amiga on a PCI Card” projects have made me suspicious and if you really are genuine then I apologise and you can put me down for either a A1200T or an A3000 version when they become available.  It’s just that everything you have shown and everything you have claimed are very easy to fake.  Hell, Iwin even had a press conference!!!  Anyway, I’ll be watching your progress with interest and hope to see a "OS3.9 on a Coldfire Tour" soon – good luck.
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Re: Coldfire Update
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 29, 2003, 07:14:42 AM »
Darrin spewed the following illogic:
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I hate to be a party pooper, but after reading your (very nice) website, am I the only one that’s worried that something as wonderful as the Coldfire Project is being developed by a man that doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their” or “to” and “too”?


Oh for crying out loud!!! That's the worst &@*# logic I've ever heard. Half the engineers I know can't spell correctly if their life depends on it. It doesn't make them bad engineers, just really bad proofreaders.
And the above mentioned mistakes are not that big, He probably just wrote it in a hurry.
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