2006 is almost gone, more pure death in 2007?

[xeron]

Don't count OS4 out just yet.

I don't know whats happening with OS4 licenses and hardware, but I do know what is happening with OS4 Beta; and the things that are happening indicate to me that good news may be coming very soon indeed.

[redrumloa]

Agafaster wrote:
Damn! I thought this was a music thread...

SFU!! Slayer!! Deicide!! \m/

 :-D

[ToddH]

I've actually checked out Haiku and it's making good progress.  I used Beos for a little while back in the 90's.  I liked it a lot, but ended up switching to Linux because of Beos development ending.

Since I stopped using my Amiga back in 1995, I went from Windows 95 to 98, then to Beos, then to Linux, Windows XP, and finally Mac OS X.  I now dual boot between Mac OS X and Windows XP on my Intel iMac.  The only time I ever boot into Windows is for games and Amiga Forever.

[Agafaster]

redrumloa wrote:

Agafaster wrote:
Damn! I thought this was a music thread...

SFU!! Slayer!! Deicide!! \m/

 :-D

Satyricon! Morbid Angel! At The Gates!
RAWK! (now wheres the headbangin emoticon when I need it ?!)

[Agafaster]

@xeron,

how could I doubt the word of the man who created the Slade II picture ?! :-D

[bloodline]

xeron wrote:
Don't count OS4 out just yet.

I don't know whats happening with OS4 licenses and hardware, but I do know what is happening with OS4 Beta; and the things that are happening indicate to me that good news may be coming very soon indeed.

Without wishing to stir up any arguments or point out the obvious... But you have been saying that for years... it's getting boring there's no evidence to back up what you say. If you can't disclose what you know, don't bother saying anything!

[Starrunner]

xeron wrote:
Don't count OS4 out just yet.

I don't know whats happening with OS4 licenses and hardware, but I do know what is happening with OS4 Beta; and the things that are happening indicate to me that good news may be coming very soon indeed.

I have heard this same story from several places over the years.  Much like the IT/Programming department at the orifice I work at, I do not believe any pronouncements til I actually see the thing.  I have been waiting for something from OS4 for years.  I suspect we will still be waiting for years to come.

[itix]

2007 is the year of the Amiga!

Like years 2006 and 2005 ;-)

It has been dead 13 years, who should it come back?

[Floid]

dammy wrote:

This will allow greater freedom on doing ports of other open source software that would not be possible (ie license conflicts) with the current x86/PPC AROS kernel.

How does the kernel license influence the licensing of applications?

How does LGPLing the kernel make it easier to reuse any code from that one major open-source kernel project which comes bound by the terms of the more restrictive GPL?

If the kernel is modular, with clearly defined interfaces, and drivers are distributed separately from it, does the license really matter at all?  (Even if individual users  'taint' their kernels, as long as they don't redistribute that combination as a single package they're pretty well out of the grey area.  Same thing goes for ugly proprietary Linux drivers, like the nVidia blobs, though the concern there is that RedHat et al would like to be able to legally ship single packaged products that actually work on anyone's hardware.)

I'm not going to complain about a less obfuscated, less restrictive license --- the LGPL specifically avoids the OMG-you-can't-distribute-this-it's-tainted problem, and tainting doesn't seem to have ever stopped any jack*** manufacturers from offering blob-only support --- but I'm not sure this solves what you think it's solving.

The BSDs have some pretty good driver code, anyway.

[Tomas]

Finally, it just just doesn't feel modern enough. It feel like an old Amiga OS with a lot of stuff tacked on to try and make it look modern.

That is maybe because it is the old wb 3.1 that is bundled with it. Amiga Forever is not a OS, it is just a emulator package bundled with software like amigaos. The latest and more modern amigaos 4 will not run though winuae/amigaforever.

[pixie]

Let me put it to you this way, AROS X86_64's modular kernel will be LGPL'd. Gotta lot of hopes in 07 for AROS.

Can you tell in plain English what LGPL license is better then the present one? Does it attract more developers?

[pixie]

Opposite to the Amiga community, the majority of the users are very content to use what current hardware is available, and ENJOY THE COMPUTER FOR WHAT IT IS.

Then tell me which OS C64 runned... what is being upgraded nowadays regarding Amiga is the OS, the hardware is a commodity, I guess that didn't happened regarding C64, as it has different users, with different tastes

[c64_d0c]

for the c64 you got "geos" a macos like os, "wings" a windows like os, "Lunix" a linux like os.... just take your pick!...  :-)
________
Chrysler (division)

[tomazkid]

I came to think of two songs when I noticed this thread  :violin:

"We shall overcome, some day"
and

"Que Sera, Sera,
Whatever will be, will be"  :violin:

[TheMagicM]

@itix:

LOL!!

[AmigaHeretic]

Gotta lot of hopes in 07 for AROS.

I have to agree.  It's looking more and more like AROS is the way forward.  

Maybe it's the open source nature of it, I don't know, but it seems like the people that control the other alternative(s) aren't interested in an OS as much as they are a package (OS and Motherboard) like the old A500 days.  I just don't think that is the way forward.

I'm interested in a Desktop OS to play with period. I've been told many times that AOS4 has no future on desktop, but it's been tough to stop holding out hope that would change.  I don't think I'll ever be able to run AOS4.  Time for some reality, time for AROS.