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Offline wawrzon

Re: Arix
« Reply #119 from previous page: June 16, 2014, 08:42:20 PM »
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Hmm, went to the page to see if a demonstration video was up yet and the page is down.


you mean this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDCNZFPR1K8&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #120 on: June 16, 2014, 08:43:27 PM »
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Good thing he can post here at least (for the moment :nervous:)...

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just wait a little..
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #121 on: June 16, 2014, 08:44:59 PM »
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you mean this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDCNZFPR1K8&feature=youtu.be
this computer really sounds like an accelerating truck..


OK, so it boots....

...not exactly the sort of demonstration video I was looking for. :)
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Re: Arix
« Reply #122 on: June 17, 2014, 01:22:47 AM »
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you mean this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDCNZFPR1K8&feature=youtu.be
this computer really sounds like an accelerating truck..


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« Reply #123 on: June 17, 2014, 05:07:55 AM »
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That is correct.

yes great news but my notebook sitting right next to me is getting anxious waiting for ARIX to be installed on it;)
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« Reply #124 on: June 18, 2014, 01:10:24 AM »
So how does ARIX differ from AEROS?
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Re: Arix
« Reply #125 on: June 18, 2014, 01:34:50 AM »
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So how does ARIX differ from AEROS?


Arix only uses the kernel and a few libs vs a whole distro.   While aeros is a great idea and I personally enjoy it.  The hope was to merely use Linux for drivers in the kernel nothing more.
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« Reply #126 on: June 18, 2014, 06:02:28 AM »
I for one can't wait to see this. Every day use amiga machine here we come!

Using the linux drivers is brilliant. Should run on ANY pc...
 

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« Reply #127 on: June 18, 2014, 08:27:03 AM »
Yep, I could imagine that ARIX can replace AROS (native and hosted) which does not mean that there could be no ARIX Broadway for example.
AEROS Comes with a full Linux Environment and opens the door to Linux apps (you can say it is bloated but this is needed to run Linux apps : ) ).
Latest AEROS Versions boot in less than 5sec anyway on SSD's or Hybrid drives.
 
ARIX uses the same ideology of using Linux Drivers but does it on a lower Level (non bloated and AROS is the only Thing a user will see).
 
It solves the Problem that AROS has no Drivers without the Need to run a full blown Linux. The opposite is that without full blown Linux under the hood, no Linux apps.
 
ARIX nightly would be smilar on size of AROS nightly
AEROS nightly would be +40MB (without AROS/or Linux apps) if reduced to the Minimum.
 

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« Reply #128 on: June 18, 2014, 09:37:41 AM »
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Yep, I could imagine that ARIX can replace AROS (native and hosted) which does not mean that there could be no ARIX Broadway for example.
AEROS Comes with a full Linux Environment and opens the door to Linux apps (you can say it is bloated but this is needed to run Linux apps : ) ).
Latest AEROS Versions boot in less than 5sec anyway on SSD's or Hybrid drives.
 
ARIX uses the same ideology of using Linux Drivers but does it on a lower Level (non bloated and AROS is the only Thing a user will see).
 
It solves the Problem that AROS has no Drivers without the Need to run a full blown Linux. The opposite is that without full blown Linux under the hood, no Linux apps.
 
ARIX nightly would be smilar on size of AROS nightly
AEROS nightly would be +40MB (without AROS/or Linux apps) if reduced to the Minimum.


It is a great concept. I hope that there will be a nightly that can be used by you and others to create "Arix" versions of your distributions. It would give the platform a big push forward.
 

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« Reply #129 on: June 18, 2014, 10:36:46 AM »
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I for one can't wait to see this. Every day use amiga machine here we come!

Using the linux drivers is brilliant. Should run on ANY pc...


In time it certainly should.   While prepping the linux kernel I learned one thing.    Many linux video drivers are buggy. :)
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Re: Arix
« Reply #130 on: June 18, 2014, 10:37:25 AM »
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It is a great concept. I hope that there will be a nightly that can be used by you and others to create "Arix" versions of your distributions. It would give the platform a big push forward.


There will be.
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Re: Arix
« Reply #131 on: June 18, 2014, 11:35:14 AM »
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I for one can't wait to see this. Every day use amiga machine here we come!
Using the linux drivers is brilliant. Should run on ANY pc...

IMO:
-To become brilliant everyday machine, AROS (the base behind ARIX) needs to evolve a lot (MorphOS is tough benchmark, and also it has some weaknesses)
-Linux does not run on ANY pc, if one expects full HW support. (I have 5 x86 systems, and every one needs driver love before Linux runs in any decent way) Custom HW is the best way for a niche to do a high quality system.

(Open source AROS and perhaps also ARIX is number one candidate for new HW tinkerer/manufacturer to enter into our niche, because of the most open ideology.
For example, if I managed to get a custom (PPC or x86) HW to production, I would first get AROS on it, then approach ARIX, MorphOS and AmigaOS4 teams.)
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« Reply #132 on: June 18, 2014, 12:33:13 PM »
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IMO:
-To become brilliant everyday machine, AROS (the base behind ARIX) needs to evolve a lot (MorphOS is tough benchmark, and also it has some weaknesses)
-Linux does not run on ANY pc, if one expects full HW support. (I have 5 x86 systems, and every one needs driver love before Linux runs in any decent way) Custom HW is the best way for a niche to do a high quality system.

(Open source AROS and perhaps also ARIX is number one candidate for new HW tinkerer/manufacturer to enter into our niche, because of the most open ideology.
For example, if I managed to get a custom (PPC or x86) HW to production, I would first get AROS on it, then approach ARIX, MorphOS and AmigaOS4 teams.)

from my experience with Aros 68k I would say three areas are to improve: Desktop (Wanderer that some prefer, Magellan is also a good option there), Zune (it is still not fully 3.8 from my experience) and generally optimize 68k integration. Additionally there are problems/errors left that has to be solved and are platform-dependent like MESA/Gallium not fully working (wrong colours) on both Aros 68k and PPC. Then it would become a decent platform for all amigans.
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #133 on: June 18, 2014, 01:06:48 PM »
If it is worth running I don't mind sourcing parts. PC parts are dirt cheap. Or support the most popular cards.
What is wrong with continuing AROS anyway? Could you run into different problems trying to merge two systems?

I haven't tried hosted AROS, which one is closer to Amithlon?
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« Reply #134 on: June 18, 2014, 01:14:43 PM »
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If it is worth running I don't mind sourcing parts. PC parts are dirt cheap. Or support the most popular cards.
What is wrong with continuing AROS anyway? Could you run into different problems trying to merge two systems?

I haven't tried hosted AROS, which one is closer to Amithlon?


It depends on how you define "AROS". Most people equal AROS with X86 and that has nothing to do with Amithlon. Amithlon (as I know it) compiles 68k code in X86 before running, AROS only runs special compiled software, on X86 you can run X86, on ARM ARM, on PPC PPC software. you cannot mix between platforms and you cannot mix with 68k (like on MorphOS/AmigaOS and Amithlon). Hosted means it is started as a appliation using the resources of the main system, so it is "perhaps" comparable but not really. The only platform where you can mix Aros with 68k is Aros 68k (that way I created Aros Vision)