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Offline James2002

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Re: Arix
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2013, 01:04:25 AM »
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You guys have certainly made a name for yourselves in my book. I'll be sure not to buy anything you or Dammy are associated with in the future. To say Dammy's write-up is misleading would be kind.
I say let them show us their fruit. It might be very productive of both of us.
 
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Re: Arix
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2013, 03:38:33 AM »
Well, Altman is pretty far off topic, but after talking to the guy I grew to like him.
OK, what he had planned definitely offended purists, but I wish I had a C64x.
That thing is bound to be a collectors item (if it isn't already).
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Re: Arix
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2013, 04:04:18 PM »
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I could of course be wrong, but perhaps it's rather "merged" than hosted? I have for example seen references to Anubis, which speaks in favor of this.

That's about as ridiculous as [...]


Really? Well...



Judging from this picture, it seems kind of "merged" if you ask me...

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Offline ferrellsl

Re: Arix
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2013, 04:21:53 PM »
No, the ARIX "OS" and I refuse to call it an OS,  is still sitting on top of a Linux kernel in spite of the single ARIX scheduling arrow pointing directly at the hardware.  This graphic is misleading at best. Arix will not be scheduling hardware resources directly without going thru the Linux kernel.  You must have gotten Dammy to draw this. More smoke and mirrors....This graphic is more at home in a comic book.....
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2013, 04:25:03 PM »
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No, the ARIX "OS" and I refuse to call it an OS,  is still sitting on top of a Linux kernel in spite of the single ARIX scheduling arrow pointing directly at the hardware.  This graphic is misleading at best. Arix will not be scheduling hardware resources directly without going thru the Linux kernel.  You must have gotten Dammy to draw this. More smoke and mirrors....This graphic is more at home in a comic book.....


You are making yourself looking silly. Your comments remind me of a small child not wanting to eat something always saying "no I do not want to eat that"
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2013, 04:39:17 PM »
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No, the ARIX "OS" and I refuse to call it an OS,  is still sitting on top of a Linux kernel


Then you don't seem to understand what an OS *is*.
Linux is a Kernel that the OS is built upon, what people refer to as Linux as actually "GNU Linux" and that's the OS.
Or take the fact that you can actually compile Linux with a different kernel than the Linux Kernel, or BSD using Linux or Mach or one of several others.
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Re: Arix
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2013, 04:39:42 PM »
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OK, then explain how Arix is supposed schedule and create a resource lock on hardware independent of the Linux kernel?  And vice versa.....Explain what happens when Arix and the Linux kernel lock the same resource at teh same time....I'll tell you what happens, you get a disaster, so I find this graphic to be misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.
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Re: Arix
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2013, 04:41:33 PM »
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OK, then explain how Arix is supposed schedule and create a resource lock on hardware independent of the Linux kernel?  And vice versa.....Explain what happens when Arix and the Linux kernel lock the same resource at teh same time....I'll tell you what happens, you get a disaster, so I find this graphic to be misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.


you are part of the dev-team? When not where do you know? Do you think all others have no clue what they do?
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2013, 04:41:56 PM »
@AJCopland

You're not qualified to tell me what I understand or don't understand as you don't even know me. I actually have a masters degree in computer science from the Univ. of Maryland and a bachelors in the same field from the Univ. of Tampa and I see the bullsh@t that Dammy and terminills have been slinging and it's very misleading and I see lesser informed people here just eat it up like ice cream.
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2013, 04:50:31 PM »
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@AJCopland

You're not qualified to tell me what I understand or don't understand as you don't even know me. I actually have a masters degree in computer science from the Univ. of Maryland and a bachelors in the same field from the Univ. of Tampa and I see the bullsh@t that Dammy and terminills have been slinging and it's very misleading and I see lesser informed people here just eat it up like ice cream.


You seem really to think you are right. I like ice cream btw. You are not very credible because you bashed on it from first minute and then continued to do so. When there are all informations you can still critisize but not from first minute.

you claim that it is a linux app looking like AROS running on it. So when we look at it there is Poseidon, AHI and other amiga-components, on the screenshot there is the DOpus Magellan icon. All are Linux apps? Explain that with or without master degree...
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2013, 05:17:18 PM »
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@AJCopland

You're not qualified to tell me what I understand or don't understand as you don't even know me. I actually have a masters degree in computer science from the Univ. of Maryland and a bachelors in the same field from the Univ. of Tampa and I see the bullsh@t that Dammy and terminills have been slinging and it's very misleading and I see lesser informed people here just eat it up like ice cream.


then try better, because currently you only struck me as an unemployed attacking whoever went in your presumably own field. sure, you can have some "real" argument. (i guess) so why are oyu not using that?
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2013, 05:23:56 PM »
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You seem really to think you are right.

on the contrary!

lets say i have some knowledge of people rather then computers. he completely fiils in what id consider a sole stone blocking the way (because he will). funny enough i have not heard reasonable people from othe "amiga camps" like os4 or mos. who are waiting till there is something  to spoil. they are waiting till there is something to contribute towards. fu keyboard fighters.
 

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Re: Arix
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2013, 06:19:08 PM »
@ferrellsl

I may not know much about ARIX yet (and neither do you or anyone else outside "the loop"), but one thing I know for certain is that you have made a complete fool out of yourself in this thread, acting like a clown from the very beginning, making wild claims and accusations  when no info about it was known, and when real info is slowly starting to be released and when people with real life knowledge of the thing corrects you, you don't back down and stand corrected, no, you persist your claims like only a fool would.

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Why don't you just sit back and wait?

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Re: Arix
« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2013, 06:38:56 PM »
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@OlafS3

OK, then explain how Arix is supposed schedule and create a resource lock on hardware independent of the Linux kernel?  And vice versa.....Explain what happens when Arix and the Linux kernel lock the same resource at teh same time....I'll tell you what happens, you get a disaster, so I find this graphic to be misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.


Rightly or wrong, the graphic clearly suggests that the Linux kernel doesn't touch the resources that the Arix kernel controls directly and that the Arix kernel sends instructions to the Linux kernel and is it's boss.

I'm not passing any kind of opinion here on Arix itself but only on what the graphic tells me,  the job of the graphic is to portray information with visual language.

It will be interesting to see how accurate the graphic designer has been in portraying the reality of the matter. Of course, he can only be as accurate as his brief.
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Offline nicholas

Re: Arix
« Reply #58 on: November 19, 2013, 06:41:46 PM »
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@AJCopland

You're not qualified to tell me what I understand or don't understand as you don't even know me. I actually have a masters degree in computer science from the Univ. of Maryland and a bachelors in the same field from the Univ. of Tampa and I see the bullsh@t that Dammy and terminills have been slinging and it's very misleading and I see lesser informed people here just eat it up like ice cream.


On the subject of "bullsh@t", upon the release of v3.3 you claimed MorphOS lacks hardware 3D support.

You've also been repeatedly told by people who know better than you that your misconceptions about ARIX are also "bullsh@t", yet you continue to argue that black is white.

Not exactly the scientific method is it?
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Offline ferrellsl

Re: Arix
« Reply #59 from previous page: November 19, 2013, 07:07:22 PM »
I've never claimed that MorphOS lacked 3D support!  I even had a PegII and I liked it! I have claimed that it lacked the 3D functionality that was available on my PC especially in light of the fact that MOS is hobbled with decades old Radeon cards, just like OS4!

As for the bullsh@being slung here, I think the above diagram was lifted from the paper published at the link below and modified for the sake of "convenience", by dammy and terminills, to add more smoke and mirrors to their argument that they've somehow merged an Aros kernel with a Linux kernel. So to be specific, here's the link which clearly shows that this Arix/Linux merged kernel is bullsh@t!

http://tornasol.datsi.fi.upm.es/ciclope-old/doc/rtos/cache/doc/rtlpro.pdf

And as for scientific methods, a powerpoint graphic without any from of documentation and a lame countdown website announcing something new and groundbreaking doesn't constitute "scientific" in any way shape or form.  This is typical grandstanding by Dammy.  This is Anubis Part Deux!  And, BTW, the paper above has verifiable and reputable sources...pretty scientific.
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