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Offline mechy

Re: A3000 desktops
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:56:01 PM »
Quote from: Lurch;791795
Tease ;-)  Anyway an Amiga fan already knows that most people consider them the best looking of the bunch.

I've always wanted one but due to insane pricing that people put on things don't think this will happen.

If you stick them on Ebay you'll get quite a bit for them, although there are few people on there that snap them up and sell them again at a higher price, causing price inflation.

Amibay is always the best place to pick Amiga items up for a fair price, but I refuse to give pricing.

It's what you think they're worth at the end of the day.


A3000's sell on a regular basis on ebay in the usa, and most go for reasonable prices,anywhere from $100-300+ depending if they are stock or more, but i guess NZ is another story.. anthony(castellan) had some for sale on his web site before, not sure what the price was. I find plenty of deals on ebay,and i have see pricing on amibay, it cant control the prices any better.

@vlabguy   Go for it, 3000's are a fine machine even in stock form.
 

Offline mechy

Re: A3000 desktops
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2015, 08:37:46 PM »
Quote from: Lurch;791817
Must be extremely lucky to score one for a $100USD. I'm an Ebay watcher, and jump from ebay.com/ebay.com.au etc as each have there own listings.

At the moment I see two listed, one for 400+ Euro (700+ NZD) and another at $300USD as you've mentioned at your higher end.

a friend of mine picked up a a4000 with Cyberstorm MKii,toaster and flyer boards for $600 off us ebay about 6 months ago. i didnt even see it! it wasnt listed as having a accelerator. lucky sob :D

take a look at these sold listings on us ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=amiga+3000&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=76522&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=10&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1

sorry for hijacking your thread vlabguy!
 

Offline mechy

Re: A3000 desktops
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2015, 09:14:49 PM »
Quote from: matthey;791819
Yea, $100 would be very cheap even here in the U.S. where the 3000 was most common. I would prefer and pay more for a motherboard which is clean around the battery and is already fully populated with static column zip memory (a pain to find and install). An already upgraded SCSI chip is a plus but it is an easy replacement. The 3000 caps seem to be better quality than the later 4000. Most 3000s are 25MHz which is worth more but it is not necessary with most accelerators. Some early revision motherboards required a ROM tower which is probably already sorted but less desirable. A 3000+CV64 (not CV64/3D) is a great Amiga combo if you find the pair for sale.

A 4000 makes more sense since it has updated chips,aga,simm ram,etc  but yea a 3000 is cool. The good old thru hole caps with good old poisionous pcb's seem to last forever in the 3000 etc.. my c64's are still going fine from 83. that being said my 4000 in mediator tower is from 92,still has the original caps and runs 24/7,but its hit and miss with 4000/1200 caps. they are all overdue anyway :D

You can ditch the rom tower and use a 27c240,27c220,27c2048(i think it is,prob. also as 27c4096 and get rid of the rom tower. I think they shared the same pinout.
 

Offline mechy

Re: A3000 desktops
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2015, 11:40:43 PM »
Quote from: Tenacious;791826
Many believe the 3000 is the best quality machine Commodore made (2000, too).  It is the most powerful Amiga with thru-hole technology and replaceable chips!  This makes it far more repairable by the avaerage user than any cost saving SMT system.  When coupled with almost any thru-graphics card, and a new 128 MB memory card, it becomes fairly modern very quickly.  ;)

My .02.

i agree for the most part, but the 4000 with surface mount is what makes it so reliable. those 20+ year old sockets in the 3000 often tarnish and the chips need reseating.
The 3000 was a good design memory wise and with scsi,but some problems you run into: most came with buster7,which don't support Zorro-3 DMA or Quick Interrupts, and they don't attempt to translate local bus burst cycles into Zorro-3 burst cycles-easily upgraded.

next is the dmac2/ramsey4 which are part of the problem of detecting static column ram when used with 3640 cards-not a problem in most cases since using pagemode in the first bank works around this, ideally the dmac4/ramsey7 was the upgrade.
Although the case looks cool, you have to tear it almost completely down to do anything inside. Most accelerators don't fit well with ram except the warpengine 3040.The a3640 will fit with a microscopic fan or large wide heatsink seen in some 4000t's. You still cant have any 5.25" cdrom etc inside,so external scsi case for that-which isnt a big deal.

It needs Int2 wire soldered for the  accelerator scsi usually.
Wd33c93 needs upgraded to rev8 or amd 33c93a to fix some ssi troubles when using multiple drives/cdroms etc- most came with rev4 proto chips or earlier.

fix all that and the battery and it makes for a solid machine, i ran one to death back in the 90's stuffed full of cards. it never missed a beat but i still love the 4000(t) and its cheaper in the long run since it usually has the latest ramsey,dmac,buster.