Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators

[guibrush]

So, is WINE a Windows emulator or a Windows emulation ?

[Acill]

So, is WINE a Windows emulator or a Windows emulation ?

WINE isnt an emulator, its an API interpreter. Is a bit more complex than just emulating expected hardware, this returns software calls the program running expects to see on a windows machine and allows it to mostly run. Some better than others.

[psxphill]

WINE isnt an emulator, its an API interpreter. Is a bit more complex than just emulating expected hardware, this returns software calls the program running expects to see on a windows machine and allows it to mostly run. Some better than others.

From wikipedia

"Wine emulates the Windows runtime environment by translating Windows system calls into POSIX-compliant system calls"

"The name Wine initially was an abbreviation for Windows Emulator.[16] Wine later shifted to the recursive backronym Wine Is Not an Emulator in order to differentiate the software from CPU emulators"

A better acronym that doesn't contradict what it is but still avoid misunderstandings would be "Wine is Natively Executed".

They made the mistake of thinking emulation was all about the CPU, but the BBC emulator for the c64 http://csdb.dk/release/?id=39817 doesn't emulate the CPU. Neither does the VIC emulator for the c64 from 1985 https://archive.org/details/1985-09-computegazette.

I don't see any practical difference with Wine.

[kolla]

Mac and Atari emulators on Amiga do not emulate CPU either. But there is more to emulate than just the CPU.

[PPC]

Maybe this topic should be renamed to: As The world Turns

/me pops out the popcorn for another episode!

[Motormouth]

Maybe this topic should be renamed to: As The world Turns

/me pops out the popcorn for another episode!

You mean, "As the Boing Ball Turns"

[nicholas]

So, is WINE a Windows emulator or a Windows emulation ?

WINE is an open source implementation of the publicly available Win32 APIs.

Related projects:
Windows Services for Linux is an implementation of the Linux kernel APIs.
AROS is an implementation of the Amiga APIs.
Haiku is an implementation of the BEOS API's.
GNU is an implementation (and extension) of the UNIX APIs.
Android is an implementation of the Java APIs.

And so on.....  No emulation involved.

[pcotter]

The " Quake enabler core"

https://youtu.be/3gAdIPwRzRo

[psxphill]

WINE is an open source implementation of the publicly available Win32 APIs.

Vice is an open source implementation of the C64.

[kolla]

Vice is an open source implementation of the C64.

A C64 is just a simulation of a Turing Machine.

[LoadWB]

A C64 is just a simulation of a Turing Machine.

But what exactly does the Turing Machine simulate? And what has any of this to do with the recent release of a firmware update for the Vampire?

[guest11527]

But what exactly does the Turing Machine simulate?

Whatever it is supposed to simulate. It is rather a mental model of a very simple computing machine that is, however, powerful enough to emulate any other computer. Albeit in a potentially very slow way, and providing output and collecting input that is "less attractive" to the end user, to put it mildly.

And what has any of this to do with the recent release of a firmware update for the Vampire?

What does all this talk about simulation and emulation have to do with it? Right, exactly nothing.

[midway]

You know nothing, Jon Snow....

Did someome try Lightwave with the updated core?

[Gulliver]

Simulation, emulation, Motorola, or asic I couldnt care less.

It is about choices: just pick the one you desire most for whatever reason, and let others do their own thing too.

It is okay to have your strong points towards your own choices, we all do. But after having discussions we should all realize that we are in the same hobby.

[gregthecanuck]

There is a Gold 2.8 release coming soon.

The biggest news is that it enables use of the expansion port.

More info here: http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=6¬e=13305

[nicholas]

A C64 is just a simulation of a Turing Machine.

Amiga OS4 is an emulation of Workbench 3.1 eh?