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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2005, 02:57:31 PM »
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I've been considering getting an old G3 to stream audio to from my PowerBook. Seems better than spending money on an airport base when I already have a perfectly adequate internet router.

I wouldn't mind knowing where on Earth people are finding these machines for $10 each. ;-) eBay prices are at least 10 times that...


This is pretty chep... but then I wouldn't want it :-D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4606&item=5223687863&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4606&item=5223774352&rd=1

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2005, 03:20:34 PM »
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Is OS X very tweakable in the sense that graphical hoohaa can be turned off to make is speedier/less hungry for memory?


You best wait for Karlos to respond to that one :lol:


If you are prepared to get into the plists and edit them, you can reduce the eye candy a little, but it makes no real difference. There are lots of nice 3rd party skins available however, but this doesn't really solve the main issue.

OSX relies on quartz extreme for the GUI rendering. This in turn uses OpenGL and each window's surface is effectively a texturemap applied to a rectangle.

If you have a 32-bit 1024x768 display, a few open windows will quickly consume all the available resources and things start paging in and out of normal memory.

If your graphics hardware is not so hot (as in the case of the old iMac), it struggles a lot. Quite good fun with the expose feature. I presently have 3 bbedit windows and 2 firefox windows open here on this eMac. Expose basically jerks the windows out of view unless I close a few.

Unfortunately, you really don't have much option to reduce the amount it hammers the video hardware since it is fundamentally down to the way it works. You need video ram (texture memory especially) and lots of it for 10.3 to work well IMHO.

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2005, 08:15:47 PM »
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OS 9 is worse than AmigaOS 3.1 :-D


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 Aros is better...
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I had to use OS9 at work a few years back, mostly for using Photoshop and Illustrator and it bugged the crap outta me...although it never drove me to physically attack the computer like Windows did.
 Stupid things really, like saving the work at the end of the day, coming back the next morning to have Photoshop say it doesn't have enough memory to load it back again... :pissed:
 Can't remember what else peeved me, but I do remember being cheered up by watching the Epson printer go wrong and start jumping around the desk and then fall off the edge. I reckon it had enough of OS9 and committed suicide   :lol:
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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2005, 09:26:40 PM »
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 Can't remember what else peeved me, but I do remember being cheered up by watching the Epson printer go wrong and start jumping around the desk and then fall off the edge. I reckon it had enough of OS9 and committed suicide   :lol:

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2005, 12:05:44 PM »
Right, I've offloaded 200EUR for a 400MHz G3 with USB on EBay. Sadly only 6GB HD and 128MB RAM. But that can be easily solved.

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2005, 01:00:38 PM »
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Right, I've offloaded 200EUR for a 400MHz G3 with USB on EBay. Sadly only 6GB HD and 128MB RAM. But that can be easily solved.


Can you send a link?

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Upgrading te HD in a PowerBook requires a degree in Apple design...

http://www.pbfixit.com/Guide/

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2005, 11:58:02 PM »
Clickety-click

I'm fairly satisfied with what I got, only minor niggle is that the screen does have a dead pixel or two.

It only has IE5 on it.....:nervous:.

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2005, 03:24:31 AM »
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NoFastMem wrote:
I've been considering getting an old G3 to stream audio to from my PowerBook. Seems better than spending money on an airport base when I already have a perfectly adequate internet router.

I wouldn't mind knowing where on Earth people are finding these machines for $10 each. ;-) eBay prices are at least 10 times that...


This is pretty chep... but then I wouldn't want it :-D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4606&item=5223687863&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4606&item=5223774352&rd=1


No Firewire though... No Firewire, no Tiger, apparently. A bit of an odd stipulation to introduce around revision 4, IMO. Mac staple or no.
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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2005, 12:25:18 PM »
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NoFastMem wrote:
I've been considering getting an old G3 to stream audio to from my PowerBook. Seems better than spending money on an airport base when I already have a perfectly adequate internet router.

I wouldn't mind knowing where on Earth people are finding these machines for $10 each. ;-) eBay prices are at least 10 times that...


This is pretty chep... but then I wouldn't want it :-D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4606&item=5223687863&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4606&item=5223774352&rd=1


No Firewire though... No Firewire, no Tiger, apparently. A bit of an odd stipulation to introduce around revision 4, IMO. Mac staple or no.


It was the full firewire port that first made me look at getting a Mac Laptop! I couldn't live without one, since no PC laptop has full firewire port I didn't really have a choice.

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2005, 12:28:45 PM »
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Clickety-click

I'm fairly satisfied with what I got, only minor niggle is that the screen does have a dead pixel or two.

It only has IE5 on it.....:nervous:.


Not a bad price... any reason why you wanted a Mac?

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2005, 12:29:19 PM »
I don't think I would find use for a firewireport. Another thing on this PowerBook is that the DVD-ROM seems very choosy when it comes to reading CDs. Loads of audio CDs don't get recognised for some reason. The drive just keep trying to get revs and OS9 completely freezes.

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2005, 03:01:15 PM »
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Not a bad price... any reason why you wanted a Mac?

200EUR was my budget and well, for 200EUR you can get about a P3600 256MB PC laptop. With this macthing the useability is about the same for the same price and I've always been interested in trying out the more recent macs. My experience with macs doesnt extend beyond OS7 on a 030 powerbook and OS8 on ShapeShifter (which ate my HD thankyouverymuch...).

So basically this laptop does what I want it to do (web, MP3s,  documents) and it has the added bonus of playing around with Macs.

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2005, 03:13:34 PM »
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So basically this laptop does what I want it to do (web, MP3s,  documents) and it has the added bonus of playing around with Macs.


So you'll be using OS X then :banana: :banana: :banana:
 

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2005, 03:31:32 PM »
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Not a bad price... any reason why you wanted a Mac?

200EUR was my budget and well, for 200EUR you can get about a P3600 256MB PC laptop. With this macthing the useability is about the same for the same price and I've always been interested in trying out the more recent macs. My experience with macs doesnt extend beyond OS7 on a 030 powerbook and OS8 on ShapeShifter (which ate my HD thankyouverymuch...).

So basically this laptop does what I want it to do (web, MP3s,  documents) and it has the added bonus of playing around with Macs.


You really should get OS X on it ASAP... not sure if they will fit on the 6gig HD though :-/

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2005, 05:29:34 PM »
Victory! OS X.3, WLAN CardBus, 18 gig HD, 340MB RAM, CD-RW/DVD-ROM and a battery that runs for 3 hours!  Can't seem to burn yet, but I'm sure I'll be able to fix it. No more deskbound computing for me!

I might start using Ubuntu as main OS though, not sure if I like X..

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Re: Considering a G3 PowerBook
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 10, 2005, 06:08:28 PM »
:banana:
I can understand the 'victory' feeling, kinda have the same now :-D
I'm about to sell my peecee
And now I use the laptop as a desktop pc with a thingy and lots of usb, works fabulously, it uses little space and the space I gained I use for stuff like a scanner and a printer (wich I used to have in the attic). No fussing around anymore in lousy computer cases...
A silent, slim and mobile solution. :-)
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