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BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« on: July 27, 2008, 03:53:32 AM »
Is it possible? At the moment I have the kickstart sockets packed higher to allow the Fast ATA board to be above the BVision board. But - the keyboard now fouls on the ROM chips and won't sit low enough.

I'm thinking about making a board to shift the FAST ATA to a position that will allow the keyboard to not foul on it...or...I'm also thinking that it might be seriously time to go to a tower configuration - if so, who's got a tower for sale? ;-)

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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2008, 09:27:21 AM »
Yeah it is possible..but other question it is safe??! BVision i to hot ..and maybe you will have problem whit overheating..
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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2008, 09:52:21 AM »
How is it possible? A custom kickstart socket repositioner? That's the only way I see it being possible...
 

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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2008, 10:04:35 AM »
yeah...

you can buy from elbox extra socket for kickstar and whit this all is possible ;)
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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2008, 11:12:16 AM »
I am not sure if you fully comprehended the original post...

Using more kickstart sockets won't fix the physical clash. I already have 2 sets of sockets installed to clear the bvision, but now the fast ata fouls on the keyboard. Is there an easy solution to "relocate" the fast ata to stop it fouling on the keyboard?
 

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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2008, 11:26:59 AM »
I wouldn't even try to put it in a desktop 1200. Because the heat isn't dissipated well enough in this enclosure it must seriously decrease the live of the card.
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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2008, 02:19:23 PM »
As Voodoo said, it's possible but too tight, too hot, too risky. For example, the BVision almost requires active cooling. It's difficult to fit a heatsink with a fan over the P2 chip AND achieve good airflow on a desctop A1200.
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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2008, 09:01:23 PM »
look at this link.

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2410=10

to fit keyboard.

take keyboard apart. cut a hole in the metal just enough so that the keyboard metal plate does not touch the rom chips.

do not over-cut the plate if you do you may have problems where the keys hit the pads.

then put a very flexable plastic where the hole is. ( this is to support the keyboard internal pad/interface.

put every back together,you will not be able to put all the screws back as a hole is now present where the roms stick though.

when you put the keyboard back,you have to still have to bend it a bit more but this will have no effect how it looks from the outside and will work as normal.

NOTE: the above also support the roms pushing them in the socket inproving contact.


COOLING A1200:

during a long overnight test with HERETIC II running i did not have a single problem 8hr no holes cut in the trapdoor no crashes but this project does have a problem elswhere ( PCMCIA ).



PCMCIA PROBLEM:

it can read/write ok but was unable to go online.

FAULT: one of the following.

software problem.

the PCMCIA port was already faulty ( i bought motherboard off EBAY.

i may have taken out a signal somewhere.

it may have something to do with my ISP & AMIGA,iv had  problem before.

when i find time i will fix whatever the problem is.  

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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 09:03:47 AM »
VERY IMPORTANT NOTES:

single socket is used in each rom socket. look at my link you can see clear plastic which isolate contact between Bvision **MEMORY MICRO CHIPS** & EIDE controller. **VERY IMPORTANT**.

to avoid contact with the EIDE controller solder legs & Bvision i *TRIM* the solder contacts on the EIDE to avoid any possible contact with Bvision.

the plastic insulater is there to make sure of no possible contact.  

i TRIM most of the EIDE legs as i have the A1200 sheiding in place.  
 
there is also clear plastic on the hardrive holder, ( precaution only ) protecting the EIDE of possible contact with the hardrive holder.

more pictures will be uploaded to help fit EIDE MKIII & Bvision in A1200 desktop if needed.

PERSONAL NOTE:

EIDE MKIII *does not* connect in the normal way in the above project.


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the Blizzard PPC has been updated im not going to say what it is at this stage but it is working. this is going to be a shock to some Blizzard PPC owners.

PROJECTS TO COMPLETE: FURY III and my two evil projects BALROCK & L******.

no information will be release whatsoever about the L****** project.  

most of the remaining projects is centerd around the Blizzard PPC & Bvision.

there has been a small setback on my projects due to external problems & may take upto 4 weeks to get back on track.  

 

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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2008, 06:04:00 PM »
hmmm, i had to trim the extra solder and pins off the back of the elbox fastATA thing to get it to fit normally.

then i bought the fastATA riser kit and clock port extender from amigakit to lift it over the bvision, but it then didn't fit with the keyboard in the desktop case. the final nail in the fastATA's coffin.

the extra reboot the fastATA introduces, along with the etra reboot from the 3.9 installation, and the extra reboot from the fusion installation, made a cold/cool boot a painfull process.

then the software split my 60Gb 1.8" drive into 15(!) seperate 4Gb logical drives. fifteen! what a PITA!

my fastATA is currently sitting in my 2nd A1200 doing nothing special without the software loaded. its only there as i can't be bothered to sell it. :lol:

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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 08:07:30 PM »
get the newer version of ELBOX EIDE MKIII drivers iv have not recive it yet. email them to recive new drivers.

the keyboard *does* fit with modifcation.

 
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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 07:34:46 PM »
Here you can see pics whit all this HW in sandwich A1200 (FastaATA,PPC,BVision..)

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/4160/1_2696.jpg
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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2008, 03:54:22 PM »
if it fits, then fair play :)
i seem to remember a screw head on the back of the keyboard pushing/scratching against the rom chips more than i was comfortable with, so took out the fastATA and bought an IDEfixExpress. even that gave me trouble. so took that out as well. so i've even taken out the slim slotloading DVD-RW as i don't have a 4way adapter in there anymore. i'll just use the scsi on my PPC card with an external DVDrom...  :-)

i've given up tinkering. i just want something that works, and i can use. :lol:

A500 Vampire2/minimegachip/lazarus/indyECS
A600 Vampire2/604n/subway/IndyECS
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A1200 PiStorm32+Pi4/subway/IndyAGA
A3k C=040/CV64-3D/Xsurf100+RRoadUSB/Zoram256/acard scsi-ide-CF/IndyECS,
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Re: BVision and FastATA MkIII in A1200 desktop?
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2008, 08:22:16 PM »
the keyboard does fit,you just need a small cutting tool to cut a hole for the rom chips to stick though. thats it!
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