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Offline Franko

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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #74 from previous page: September 15, 2010, 12:25:56 PM »
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Sigh - again, that's not what the fuss is about! :hammer:


Ok Kolla, explain what al the fuss is about... :)
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #75 on: September 15, 2010, 12:37:13 PM »
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Ok Kolla, explain what al the fuss is about... :)


See Red's post at top of page for one...
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2010, 12:43:33 PM »
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Ok Kolla, explain what al the fuss is about... :)
Commodore USA uses modified fanart in marketing material without permission.

http://www.aminet.net/pix/trace/AMIGA-fantasyB.jpg
vs
http://www.commodoreusa.net/i/PC64Pro.jpg
http://www.commodoreusa.net/i/AMIGA-fantasyB_3_2_3.jpg
http://www.commodoreusa.net/products.html

See here:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54331

This is how the CEO thinks copyright works:
As far as using abandoned artwork, no problem here. Marko Hirv cannot be reached. Period. I tried. No luck. And yes, I did email the company he is at now….again no reply. Find him…I'll deal with him, or anyone else that falls into that category. (source)
« Last Edit: September 15, 2010, 01:00:53 PM by Piru »
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2010, 01:02:35 PM »
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Some of us have dipped our feet in the pond and know how deep the water is.


Yeah, I've dipped my toes into the Amiga pond:
« Last Edit: September 15, 2010, 01:08:34 PM by dammy »
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #78 on: September 15, 2010, 01:03:08 PM »
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See Red's post at top of page for one...


I get that much, but I just can't understand what folk are getting angry about, if you don't like the guy or his products then why bother about him. No ones is forcing you, me or anyone else to buy his stuff. So why not just boycot his site and just ignore him.

The guy has nothing that I want to buy, but as I say I don't understand why some folk are reverting to what's becoming nothing more than a slanging match. :)
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #79 on: September 15, 2010, 01:15:41 PM »
There's lots of fuss here, but none of it is related to them using the name "Commodore", and there's also almost surprisingly little fuss about them using the name "Amiga".

The fuss is about:
* using fanart without permission
* shifting positions regarding AROS, the "amiga community", and just about anything
* BigBenAussie "the CTO" has been pestering the Amiga sites that are serving a community for which they officially do not care about, for months with this nonsense
* It is CUSA who say "Look at us - we have the name, WE HAVE THE NAME - you MUST like us!!111"
* Their handling of OSNews.org, which was hilarious :)
* And ofcourse their general "you're all a bunch of silly amateurs" attitude towards anyone who question their actions, many of whom are well established in the IT industry.

All in all, great drama :)
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #80 on: September 15, 2010, 01:20:38 PM »
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The guy has nothing that I want to buy, but as I say I don't understand why some folk are reverting to what's becoming nothing more than a slanging match. :)


Because they are bitching back, it's become interactive - I think the word is infotainment :)
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #81 on: September 15, 2010, 01:21:36 PM »
Quote from: Piru;579509
Commodore USA uses modified fanart in marketing material without permission.

http://www.aminet.net/pix/trace/AMIGA-fantasyB.jpg
vs
http://www.commodoreusa.net/i/PC64Pro.jpg
http://www.commodoreusa.net/i/AMIGA-fantasyB_3_2_3.jpg
http://www.commodoreusa.net/products.html

See here:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54331

This is how the CEO thinks copyright works:
As far as using abandoned artwork, no problem here. Marko Hirv cannot be reached. Period. I tried. No luck. And yes, I did email the company he is at now….again no reply. Find him…I'll deal with him, or anyone else that falls into that category. (source)


I'm also willing to bet he didn't get permission from Design By XS to use the Amiga logo that is currently on his page.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/i/logo/amiga_chrome_trail-1.jpg

http://www.designbyxs.com/printdesign/amiga%20chrome%20trail.jpg

Design By XS = Dr. Ryan Czerwinski, btw.
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #82 on: September 15, 2010, 01:27:18 PM »
@Kolla

Ok some fair points their, and a wee bit of drama always helps liven things up a wee bit. :)

So why not hack into his site and make some erm... modifications to his dodgy use of other folks artwork and place a few truths about what his site is really all about. Im pretty sure there must be someone here with the skills & talents to do so... :)
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #83 on: September 15, 2010, 01:31:46 PM »
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Yup, have to say these messages from Transition/Pyromania reflect poorly on the site administration.

Could we all back up a minute and give Transition/Pyromania a break, please? Running a site and/or being a moderator does not mean someone should not have an opinion. As long as the stated opinion does not break the TOS and moderation is not swayed by a personal opinion, there is no harm. You might not like an opinion, but that is the way it is in all aspects of life.
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #84 on: September 15, 2010, 01:34:16 PM »
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I get that much, but I just can't understand what folk are getting angry about, if you don't like the guy or his products then why bother about him. No ones is forcing you, me or anyone else to buy his stuff. So why not just boycot his site and just ignore him.
 
The guy has nothing that I want to buy, but as I say I don't understand why some folk are reverting to what's becoming nothing more than a slanging match. :)

This is a duscussion forum. Someone started a topic, it is getting discussed! If internet forums didn't discuss topics, they would be quite boring;)
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #85 on: September 15, 2010, 01:40:59 PM »
Sorry red, just looked more like a personal attack than an opinion to me.
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #86 on: September 15, 2010, 01:42:06 PM »
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This is a duscussion forum. Someone started a topic, it is getting discussed! If internet forums didn't discuss topics, they would be quite boring;)


Wish you could explain that to the moderator who kicked me off an Adult Chat site a couple of night's ago, that guy or woman had no sense of humor at all, and I just lost a £29.99 subscription fee... :)
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #87 on: September 15, 2010, 01:51:03 PM »
Are melons a fruit or veg... :)

OOOPS... Sorry wrong thread... Just ignore that question...
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #88 on: September 15, 2010, 03:29:43 PM »
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I'm also willing to bet he didn't get permission from Design By XS to use the Amiga logo that is currently on his page.

http://www.commodoreusa.net/i/logo/amiga_chrome_trail-1.jpg

http://www.designbyxs.com/printdesign/amiga%20chrome%20trail.jpg

Design By XS = Dr. Ryan Czerwinski, btw.

Maybe he checked with the AMA and couldn't find a Dr. Ryan Czerwinski to ask for permission?
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Re: Commodore USA
« Reply #89 on: September 15, 2010, 05:14:48 PM »
Perhaps I'll stay out of this thread. Sorry if I offended anyone.

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