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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« on: November 23, 2010, 07:54:00 AM »
Personally I couldnt really care less. People will use what theyre confortable with and/or enjoy and good luck to them for that. Surely an amiga based site and it's people understand that ? As for why Windows is so dominant, there's plenty of reasons. Firstly (besides marketting) it's software. As good as some open source software has become, for the most part it's inferior to dedicated commercial efforts (with obvious reason). Also, exposure. Windows is everywhere. You can go into a shop and buy software for it. Without this sort of every day exposure something will seem "strange" to people. Also, and Im sure long time linux users might disagree as they've by now learned how it works, but Linux simply isnt as friendly, even the more popular distros arent as easy to get your head around as Windows. Honsetly I think something like AROS has more chance in the future to gain mainstream users (although I doubt that'll happen still), Linux is typically just too cumbersome. Where's all the big name games for Linux. Resident Evils, Silent Hill, FInal Fantasy, etc, etc. ?   Yes Im aware that Linux gaming is a little bigger than it once was, and through WINE a lot of software can run (typically with somewhat inferior performance to on Windows), but Joe Public doesnt care to have to tweak/update thier system, so again it falls into the "weird" category for them, and they'd prefer a "normal" machine.

And yes, Im aware that many of these shortcomings of Linux can be redeemed, but people want something that works out of the box and makes sense to them without having to learn.

At the end of the day I'll just use the right tool/system for the right job. I have no allegiance to anything but myself and my interests/needs/budget. Having said that it's as clear as the nose on my face as to why Linux hasnt taken off on the desktop (a lot of the mainstream users who use it do so because of computer enthusiast friends/family talking them into it).

As for desktops being on thier way out,... what a crock. Netbook/laptop sales have dropped recently due to saturation, and for many things a desktop machine with a larger screen, nice sound system, more powerful hardware, etc. is by far the best experience. The format itself is simply more practical a lot of the time.

Anyway, each to thier own, and I couldnt care less if complete strangers use Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, or GeOS. The only OS users I care much about are amiga based os users, as the more there are the better the experience (new users brings new developers and also more people for me to inflict my own software upon :)).
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Linux/Windows flame wars
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 03:06:01 PM »
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Firefox, Google Chrome (combined 43% of market share) and Apache (58% of server market) seems to disagree with you.

You are misunderstanding how software works, though.
The operating system and the software you run on it have nothing to do with each other. You can use proprietary software on linux (I own Quake wars and Prey f.x.) and you can use open source software on windows (firefox f.x.)




Take two people with no previous computer experience and sit one in front of a linux machine, and one in front of a windows machine. I'll guarantee there'll be no difference in their ability to do their daily stuff. Why would there? Either way, you are just clicking on icons.

Windows is familiar because you've already used it, not because there's somehow anything more intuitive or helpful about it. (if you don't believe me, google "windows troubleshooting" or similar and see how many millions of hits you get.


Will linux ever "rule" the desktop ?

No more than amiga ever would have ruled it.

Does it matter ?

No. The choice is there for those who want it (stability, freedom). The desktop is only one tiny bit of what linux is, can and does.


Firstly, I didnt say always in regards to open source software. There are examples (as you've given) when open source software is used as heavily as commercial efforts, I have no trouble admitting that and never said otherwise. Predominantely relying on open source and having access to are pretty different things though. As for me not understanding how software works,.... after 30 years of being into computers and developing I think I have a pretty good handle on it. Thanks anyway. Additionally I did say that I know Linux gaming is on the up, and I even mentioned things like WINE to be able to play commercial Windows software, but performance isnt what it is on Windows a lot of the time (as I already said as well). Also,... my post was ripe with me suggesting it doesnt matter to me anyway. I simply stated some reasons why Windows is a lot more dominant on the desktop than linux and why linux has little chance of making headway.


Seriously, did you even read my post, or just skimp through it and try to find fault ? Most of the things you've bought up I addressed already in my post, and both sides of the coin.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.