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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 28, 2012, 03:19:36 PM »
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Just read a terrible review of that dell monitor - i wonder if there is a newer led backlit monitor that has both good reviews and works on the amiga.


Im not a monitor guru or anything but I dont see why it would get bad reviews. Seems perfectly fine to me.
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2012, 04:55:53 PM »
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Im not a monitor guru or anything but I dont see why it would get bad reviews. Seems perfectly fine to me.


This is the review http://www.pcmonitors.org/monitor-reviews/dell-st2320l
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 05:00:01 PM »
Fair enough. I don't play PC games really, other than some rogue-likes, and everything moves fine for amiga gaming :)
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 05:03:19 PM »
It wasn't the refresh speed I was so worried about but the other stuff, like the contrast ratio, and colour. I've seen some other reviews that are more positive however. Please could you make some photos with the Amiga in lowres and hires and laced? I've recently had a bunch of 1084's die on me, so need a replacement screen or two.
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2012, 05:14:56 PM »
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It wasn't the refresh speed I was so worried about but the other stuff, like the contrast ratio, and colour. I've seen some other reviews that are more positive however. Please could you make some photos with the Amiga in lowres and hires and laced? I've recently had a bunch of 1084's die on me, so need a replacement screen or two.


Once my son takes a nap today sure.

The only thing I have is a crappy cell phone camera but hopefully it'll do the trick :)


And yeah, I had thought about the 1084, but between shipping cost and the fact they are 20+ year old CRT's, I didn't feel it was a viable option.
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 05:22:39 PM »
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Once my son takes a nap today sure.

The only thing I have is a crappy cell phone camera but hopefully it'll do the trick :)


And yeah, I had thought about the 1084, but between shipping cost and the fact they are 20+ year old CRT's, I didn't feel it was a viable option.

thanks :)

agreed, they are not - unless you are happy to re-cap them etc, they probably are all terminally ill.

Just to test, I plugged my a500 into my BENQ bl2400pt monitor - and it worked, but not perfectly. some vertical bands visible on solid colour (looked like scaling related.), and wasn't able to switch to 4:3 aspect - although it might be possible to manually resize to that.
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2012, 05:27:35 PM »
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thanks :)

agreed, they are not - unless you are happy to re-cap them etc, they probably are all terminally ill.

Just to test, I plugged my a500 into my BENQ bl2400pt monitor - and it worked, but not perfectly. some vertical bands visible on solid colour (looked like scaling related.), and wasn't able to switch to 4:3 aspect - although it might be possible to manually resize to that.

The vertical bands seems to hard to avoid. The 2320 gets it a little bit, the external scan doubler I had before got it worse, and I've seen screenshots of indivisions that produce it too.

Someone said on here he'd managed to fiddle with settings on the 2320 to make them disappear but I couldn't seem to find it.
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2012, 05:42:37 PM »
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The vertical bands seems to hard to avoid. The 2320 gets it a little bit, the external scan doubler I had before got it worse, and I've seen screenshots of indivisions that produce it too.

Someone said on here he'd managed to fiddle with settings on the 2320 to make them disappear but I couldn't seem to find it.


It's the "Pixel Clock" adjustment.
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2012, 05:44:24 PM »
ive had a fiddle with my bl2400pt again. Seems impossible to change the aspect ratio (locked). I think the pixel clock setting did improve the lines on this monitor too. Shame the aspect is locked. I'm assuming aspect ratio isnt a problem on the 2320 ? also has anyone tried the st2420l ?
 

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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2012, 06:19:54 PM »
alright, crappy cell phone pictures :)
My phone camera is super grainy so bear that in mind. THe actual image is quite clear.



In 4:3 mode.



Close up. You can see the banding here. Adjusting pixel clock didn't help me but I have barely adjusted any settings.



In the normal "fill" mode.



Loading up one of the 3 best games ever.



Another close up



And the picture in-game. Banding is much less here it seems.



Way up close.


Hope that helps inform your decisions :)

edit: the keyboard is for my PC. The two are set up next to each other, using the same monitor.
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Re: Benq XL2410T, Can't handle 15KHz as the specs say
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2012, 07:42:48 PM »
Thanks yeh. Looks decent. I shall have a shop around.