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Offline leirbag28Topic starter

How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« on: October 25, 2007, 07:35:27 PM »
I have an A1200 with Blizzard 1260/1240? it says Blizzard 1240 on the sticker and it has 68040 @ 50mhz. But it seems to run the same speed as my CD32 SX32 pro did with a 68030 50mhz.

Whats up here? I have heard of Oxypatcher and Cyberpatcher..........where do I get these?

But nevertheless, is there is something I am missing? am I supposed to activate something? it certainly works as far as rendering t it seems.

and what about BlazeWCP?
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 07:42:27 PM »
Maybe you need 040 friendly apps? Did you install a newer 68040 lib?
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2007, 07:45:45 PM »
do you have native memory on the board ? thats essential

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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2007, 07:48:55 PM »


No I didnt install any newer libs....I believe the lib is there already......perhaps I need a newr one?

I dont think I need 040 friendly apps..............SHould animations just run faster?

I have 128mb RAM
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2007, 07:52:15 PM »
 You have installed a 50MHz 040 on the Apollo? OMG, those beasties get too hot for an A1200 in the original case!

 Did you swap the crystal for a proper one? Maybe you can swap  the crystal for a 66MHz or 80MHz unit (instead of the original 50Mhz one) in order to gain some speed.

 But, beware! Those CPUs get very hot! They need a biiig heatsink and fan in order to function properly.

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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2007, 07:54:54 PM »
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it has 68040 @ 50mhz

Really? Wasn't the stock B1240 already overclocked to 40MHz? (25Mhz part at 40MHz or so...) I doubt OCing more is healthy...

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No I didnt install any newer libs....I believe the lib is there already

It's absolutely critical that you install the proper phase5 68040.library.

Download http://phase5.a1k.org/files/040_060Libs.lha and copy the libraries to LIBS:
 

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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2007, 08:00:05 PM »
Goto shell
1> cpu

paste results here then we can fix
 

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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 08:54:33 PM »
@leirbag

a 040/40 is *much* faster than a 030/50. Of course, you won't notice it playing Giana Sisters or Battle Squadron. But serious apps will run much better. Even games like Doom will play smoother.

On the other hand I guess you are using a 040/25Mhz (if you have looked at the crystal and have read 50Mhz you should remember that 040 use half of that). A 040/25 will provide a similar speed than a 030/50 in apps/games that access to fast ram but you'll get a nice speed up in other things like jpeg loading.
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2007, 07:03:48 PM »
@Piru

Thanks..........I will try those.

@rkauer

My 040 does get super hot. But I have 2 fans on it. Seems to work....And its not an Apollo..........its a Blizzard. I  dont know the Crystal speed.......will have to check that. and will try the 1> cpu   command.

WHat I really want is just faster animations and response when using SCALA MM300 and ELan Performer. Or just when an animation is playing.
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2007, 07:32:19 PM »
Hmmm they never used an EC040 did they, only thing I could think of, going from an '030 and 882 @ 50 to EC040 and no FPU.
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2007, 08:18:35 PM »
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WHat I really want is just faster animations and response when using SCALA MM300 and ELan Performer. Or just when an animation is playing.


Hmm...  Good luck with that.  As far as I know, that's your custom chipset [lack of] bandwidth killing ya there.  
 

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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2007, 08:37:08 PM »
I`m afraid so.  I spent ages making a nice anim to use in a video I was genlocking.  It wouldn`t play back anything like full speed, even when I halved the res.  Oh, and I'm using an 060 66 here. :-(
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 08:46:52 PM »
 If you have a Blizzard 1240, the things you need to change are:

 - a SMD jumper in the board to allow 1:1 clock;

 - a 33 or 40 MHz crystal;

 - Add a heatsink to the CPU. Just fans are not enough!

 The guides to modify your Blizzard are in: here
and here (in french).

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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 09:03:47 PM »
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lurkist wrote:
I`m afraid so.  I spent ages making a nice anim to use in a video I was genlocking.  It wouldn`t play back anything like full speed, even when I halved the res.  Oh, and I'm using an 060 66 here. :-(


I'm confused.  I thought the Amiga was sold on the fact it could play back full screen anims smoothly, from day one of the A1000.  :-?
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Re: How Do I speed up My 68040 ? My 68030 seemed faster.
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 10:42:09 PM »
@lurkist

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I`m afraid so. I spent ages making a nice anim to use in a video I was genlocking. It wouldn`t play back anything like full speed, even when I halved the res. Oh, and I'm using an 060 66 here.  
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Dang, you must be doing something wrong........I get pretty good HAM8 anims on an 030. Im talking fully digitized Video at 368 x 240  and super smooth on a DCTV at 736x240

I would use DCTV for the anims now but they are fro ChromaKeying, and for some reason when passed through the DCTV RGB adaptor and genlock...........the DCTV anim colors looked washed out as opposed to the Video Out on the DCTV itself.  SO I have to create them for use in SCALA as backgrounds for ChromaKeying.
By the way did you try using Anim8L format in scala?  its fast!  and CLariSSA is even faster (wish SCALA could play SSA files from ClariSSA and Adorage 2.0)
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