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Title: Twenty-Five
Post by: System on August 04, 2010, 07:40:04 PM
Twenty-Five years of Development

As a celebration of the 25th anniversary of the Amiga computer,  Hyperion Entertainment has made a video using the Gource CVS  visualization software showing a time-compressed version of 25 years of  Amiga development, from the early days of AmigaOS 1.0 to the present. Personal commentary added by one of the current  core full-time AmigaOS developers,* Hans-Joerg Frieden (a.k.a.  "Rogue").



More... (http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=141:twenty-five&catid=36:amigaos-4x&Itemid=18)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 04, 2010, 07:50:18 PM
Gource FTW :)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: MaximvsPayne on August 04, 2010, 08:12:14 PM
http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/media/video/eLAP_AmigaOS.mpg <-how cool is this, an amigaos4 version for an handheld!!! i want it!!!
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Argo on August 04, 2010, 08:14:39 PM
Wow! That was neat.  I like the programmers looking like busy little worker bees zapping the source tree and growing it.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 04, 2010, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: Argo;573430
Wow! That was neat.  I like the programmers looking like busy little worker bees zapping the source tree and growing it.


I didn't realise they had repository information going back that far in order to visualise it.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Rogue on August 04, 2010, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: Karlos;573440
I didn't realise they had repository information going back that far in order to visualise it.


The first check-in in our log is by "kodiak" (Bob Burns) and is dated 29th of January, 1985 at half past twelve ;-)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 04, 2010, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Rogue;573448
The first check-in in our log is by "kodiak" (Bob Burns) and is dated 29th of January, 1985 at half past twelve ;-)


Blimey. What where they using back then? RCS or something?
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: xeron on August 04, 2010, 10:08:37 PM
Quote from: Karlos;573449
Blimey. What where they using back then? RCS or something?


Yep, RCS.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 04, 2010, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: xeron;573457
Yep, RCS.


And to think I complain about subversion :)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 04, 2010, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: MaximvsPayne;573429
http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/media/video/eLAP_AmigaOS.mpg <-how cool is this, an amigaos4 version for an handheld!!! i want it!!!


It's certainly a lot snappier than I expected. I guess a major problem would have been creating a more suitable touch-driven user interface for such a device. As nice as Workbench is, it's very much a desktop UI, to my mind.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Trev on August 04, 2010, 11:04:31 PM
The eLAP bit is cool, although I doubt you would have seen Workbench in a finished product. (Is also provides a small bit of validation for all the PDA talk coming out of various Amiga talking heads over the years.) PDAs and smartphones have had the same PIM-centric interface for as long as they've been around. Apple successfully did away with the stylus, but it's still the same paradigm. EDIT: And, I want to see Rogue's PS3 running OS4. ;-)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Rogue on August 04, 2010, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: Karlos;573459
It's certainly a lot snappier than I expected. I guess a major problem would have been creating a more suitable touch-driven user interface for such a device. As nice as Workbench is, it's very much a desktop UI, to my mind.


I had actually started to work on a new file manager/program launcher type of application for the eLAP version, which ran on an AmigaOne and which was used to make screenshots form. It could use normal AmigaOS icons but presented them in a different way.

I stopped working on it when the project was canned.

AmigaOS was actually quite responsive on the device. It's a shame it never came to be.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 04, 2010, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: Rogue;573466
I had actually started to work on a new file manager/program launcher type of application for the eLAP version, which ran on an AmigaOne and which was used to make screenshots form. It could use normal AmigaOS icons but presented them in a different way.

I stopped working on it when the project was canned.

AmigaOS was actually quite responsive on the device. It's a shame it never came to be.


Quite. Such is life, I guess.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Pyromania on August 04, 2010, 11:50:57 PM
@Rogue

This is awesome, thanx for sharing this with us.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Matt_H on August 05, 2010, 12:16:08 AM
Quote from: Rogue;573466
I had actually started to work on a new file manager/program launcher type of application for the eLAP version, which ran on an AmigaOne and which was used to make screenshots form. It could use normal AmigaOS icons but presented them in a different way.


Is that what the "Scalability" picture on the old OS4 site showed (Wayback Machine page, image is gone (http://web.archive.org/web/20071006072929/os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=9&Itemid=0&limit=1&limitstart=2.html))? Or was that just a mockup?

Thanks for sharing all this. It's great to see.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: persia on August 05, 2010, 12:42:13 AM
Cute, I like the little insects pissing on the flower.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Rogue on August 05, 2010, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: Matt_H;573471
Is that what the "Scalability" picture on the old OS4 site showed (Wayback Machine page, image is gone (http://web.archive.org/web/20071006072929/os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=9&Itemid=0&limit=1&limitstart=2.html))? Or was that just a mockup?

Thanks for sharing all this. It's great to see.


Yes, that's the one. It would load icons and just arrange them in a tabular manner. There was a cycle gadget that could select different directories. It was all very similar to what was running under Linux on the device.

Only that AmigaOS run faster ;-)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Argo on August 05, 2010, 03:11:50 AM
Quote from: Rogue;573466
I had actually started to work on a new file manager/program launcher type of application for the eLAP version, which ran on an AmigaOne and which was used to make screenshots form. It could use normal AmigaOS icons but presented them in a different way.

I stopped working on it when the project was canned.

AmigaOS was actually quite responsive on the device. It's a shame it never came to be.


Even in the state shown, I saw alot of potential. A shame, indeed.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: amigadave on August 05, 2010, 06:13:11 AM
Very interesting and entertaining (for geeks like us that is).
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Rogue on August 05, 2010, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: Argo;573496
Even in the state shown, I saw alot of potential. A shame, indeed.


It had everything that the normal version had except for an audio driver. Thom had written a driver for the touch screen and case buttons, and it had a LED that could actually output RGB values that was controlled via some resource. It even had the emulator running, and it ran WBSteroids and SuperBase - you were a bit restricted to the software we had on the image since the CF and Memory stick interface didn't work yet.

It's hard to convey how cool it was to boot from the thing the first time and suddenly see a "Please insert volume Workbench" requester pop up, or the boing ball with animated floppy disk :)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: DAX on August 05, 2010, 01:27:31 PM
Very interesting thanks for sharing! :)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 05, 2010, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: Rogue;573511
It had everything that the normal version had except for an audio driver. Thom had written a driver for the touch screen and case buttons, and it had a LED that could actually output RGB values that was controlled via some resource. It even had the emulator running, and it ran WBSteroids and SuperBase - you were a bit restricted to the software we had on the image since the CF and Memory stick interface didn't work yet.

It's hard to convey how cool it was to boot from the thing the first time and suddenly see a "Please insert volume Workbench" requester pop up, or the boing ball with animated floppy disk :)


Presumably, though, you still have it, right? Would be nice to see it in action.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Rogue on August 06, 2010, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: Karlos;573568
Presumably, though, you still have it, right? Would be nice to see it in action.


The eLAP? No, unfortunately we don't have them anymore. They were returned after the work was finished.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Argo on August 06, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
Oh, well....  http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/IBM-unveils-Linuxbased-PDA-reference-design/ (http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/IBM-unveils-Linuxbased-PDA-reference-design/)
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Karlos on August 06, 2010, 06:47:50 PM
Quote from: Rogue;573642
The eLAP? No, unfortunately we don't have them anymore. They were returned after the work was finished.


That's a crying shame. Having a portable AmigaOS compatible really appeals to my inner geek.
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: amoskodare on August 07, 2010, 07:36:55 PM
Interesting videos, thanks! :afro:
Title: Re: Twenty-Five
Post by: Fergust on September 25, 2010, 04:34:33 AM
Great posts! Thank you.