Kickstarter for buying and open source Amiga OS

[bloodline]

How much in total would they need to have it fully working on Rasberry Pi?

btw. I could only spare $300

Throw some money at Nick Andrews (aka Kalamatee), he got the Raspberry Pi native version of AROS working... Now we need a working USB driver for it :-/

[bloodline]

Not to be an egghead or anything, but when you say 'SMP' do you actually mean 'Symmetric MultiProcessing' or do you mean 'some way to utilise multiple cores'.

https://gitorious.org/aros/aros/graph/silly-smp

Soon people will learn why open source is a very cool thing, won't they Nik?

[nicholas]

Soon people will learn why open source is a very cool thing, won't they Nik?

I have no idea what you're talking about Matt. None whatsoever.

[Terminills]

https://gitorious.org/aros/aros/graph/silly-smp

Lies!!!

[nicholas]

Lies!!!

Of course, it's not possible at all remember?

[Kronos]

Of course, it's not possible at all remember?

Well lets see:
- would this be 100% source-code compatible to anything written for AmigaOS3.x ?

- would this run stable while executing legacy code on a (non-existant) dual 680x0 setup ?

Noone ever said that it was impossible to write an SMP-OS with an API similar to AmigaOS running recompiled (and patched) SW.

[nicholas]

Well lets see:
- would this be 100% source-code compatible to anything written for AmigaOS3.x ?

- would this run stable while executing legacy code on a (non-existant) dual 680x0 setup ?

Noone ever said that it was impossible to write an SMP-OS with an API similar to AmigaOS running recompiled (and patched) SW.

Why don't you ask the author?

[Karlos]

Noone ever said that it was impossible to write an SMP-OS with an API similar to AmigaOS running recompiled (and patched) SW.

You do realise that this description could easily be applied to MorphOS, especially when running native application software, right?

So, dual G5 support in the works?

[Boot_WB]

https://gitorious.org/aros/aros/graph/silly-smp

Now that's just silly. Silly to expect me to fully understand what I'm seeing anyway.
Obviously a commit log for changes to AROS for SMP support (topped by one for 68K architecture, which even my addled brain finds curious given the lack of multicore 68K Amiga systems). I just don't appreciate how far along the road they are to implementing it.

[guest3110]

Who do you buy it from?  Who actually owns the IP and can sell it?  What if they don't want to sell?  Some tough questions, there!  

As I understand it, Commodore once again owns the Amiga (trademark, logo, lock stock and barrel)...except for McEwen's Amiga Games (or whatever that company he started is called).

So, unless I misread something, things are essentially right back where they started prior to ESCOM splitting the two up (remember when Commodore went to Tulip computers? And Amiga went to Gateway?)

Full circle. Commodore, parent company of Amiga.


On a sidenote: I think it has finally had enough "IP washing" (to where any legal beefs could have arisen at any moment, through all the changes of hands--and whomever didn't speak up...missed out, legally).

[Kronos]

You do realise that this description could easily be applied to MorphOS, especially when running native application software, right?

MorphOS still runs 68k alongside that PPC code, and AFAIK their are no changes to the API for PPC code to cater SMP. So in the end all old code would either have to be recompiled/patched or moved into a "legacy box" (which was the orginal plan some 13 years ago).

So, dual G5 support in the works?

None that I know off.

[Karlos]

MorphOS still runs 68k alongside that PPC code

Does it really, though? Possibly a bit philosophical, but it loads 68K object code, but in the end and whether running interpretively or JIT, it's not 68K opcodes that are actually being physically executed. Eventually, it's a PPC native task doing the work.

[dammy]

As I understand it, Commodore once again owns the Amiga (trademark, logo, lock stock and barrel)...except for McEwen's Amiga Games (or whatever that company he started is called).

Wrong.

[CritAnime]

OH TEH DRAMAS!!!!! :flame::rofl:

[takemehomegrandma]

Noone ever said that it was impossible to write an SMP-OS with an API similar to AmigaOS running recompiled (and patched) SW.

You do realise that this description could easily be applied to MorphOS, especially when running native application software, right?

The text you marked as bold in your quote, is rather what is required in order to go from where MorphOS is today, to a future with more "modern" features. Today, the Amiga legacy and backwards compatibility prevents this, but as Kronos said, an Amiga-like OS with similar (but not identical) API could of course be made at the expense of the legacy Amiga environment. Then things like 64-bit, SMP, true memory protection, the maximum memory barrier, etc could be dealt with. Applications made for the legacy Amiga environment that Morphos presents today would of course have to be adapted accordingly and recompiled (or run in a box like UAE or whatever). So this is a possible future path, not the present situation for MorphOS. Today, MorphOS doesn't present an API similar to Amiga, it presents *the* Amiga API, *the* Amiga environment that Amiga legacy apps requires to function, and the "modern features" like SMP can't exist here without breaking Amiga. CPU's (68k or PPC) isn't the point, the rules of the legacy environment is.

[wawrzon]

Well lets see:
- would this be 100% source-code compatible to anything written for AmigaOS3.x ?

- would this run stable while executing legacy code on a (non-existant) dual 680x0 setup ?

Noone ever said that it was impossible to write an SMP-OS with an API similar to AmigaOS running recompiled (and patched) SW.

we will see. this is a research operating system for a reason. stay assured that backwards compatibility subject has been discussed in depth, as customary on aros, to the point of taking hypothetic fpga 68k multicore systems into account. as far as i have seen aros x64 hosted already runs in smp, native x64 being implemented. this project was outlined and discussed just few days ago and subsequently been worked on by the person who made the proposal (jason) now joined by others.