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Title: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 08:22:37 PM
Hi everyone.

I want to convert my music mods to audio tracks and then burn them to cd. I've got NERO 6 on the PC so organising and burning the tracks will be no problem.

But... how do I get the audio files on the PC in the first place?? :-? All I can find is "sound recorder" and it's poor at best. PCM mono... sorry, but that's cr*p!! (AudioMaster IV on the Amiga blows that away, completely)

Help!!! (my fans are waiting... :-D )
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on October 14, 2007, 08:29:20 PM
Yeah I started off using sound recorder and clicking on the record button again after every 60 seconds. It worked but I ended up with music with jumps in it of course  :lol:

I now use Quick Record which is practically the same thing but with continuous recording for as long as you like and in both mono or stereo  8-)
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Matt_H on October 14, 2007, 08:30:36 PM
If you want to record from the Amiga's audio out, try Audacity. Open-source, multiplatform, lots of options.

Another solution might be to find a PC MOD player and play back to disk instead of an audio device. DeliPlayer? DeliTracker? Can't remember the precise name, but it's a PC version of an old Amiga MOD player. It might have disk-writing capabilities.
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 08:34:06 PM
@A4000_Mad

That sounds more like what I need! Where do I find Quick Record? Is it part of Windows XP or do I have to download it? (I'm guessing the second one!)
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Tomas on October 14, 2007, 08:36:42 PM
Audacity is indeed a very good option if it exists for windows.
By the way, you can select both the khz and stereo in the preferences of soundrecorder. It still stinks very much though..
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: pyrre on October 14, 2007, 08:40:02 PM
I use cooledit 2000, it is able of saving (some of) the .mod files directly to .mp3
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 08:43:32 PM
@Tomas

I looked at the options for sound recorder and I couldn't see anything useful. But if it stinks anyway... :lol:

Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on October 14, 2007, 08:43:48 PM
Quote

Anthomatic wrote:
@A4000_Mad

That sounds more like what I need! Where do I find Quick Record? Is it part of Windows XP or do I have to download it? (I'm guessing the second one!)


I'm just trying to find out where I got it from for you. It's not part of Windows as it was originally E-mailed to me and then I registered it. I was then sent Quick Record 2 FREE which allows you to record directly to MP3 as well as WAVE. I'll keep looking..........

EDIT - Well I've found the original E-mails in YAM of my A4000 from June 2001 :-D :-D :-D

It came from www.reg.net with a registration address of support@msaxon.com

However, it doesn't seem to be listed at www.reg.net anymore. Oh well! :pint:    
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: motorollin on October 14, 2007, 08:53:43 PM
Audacity does have a Windows version, and it's free. You can save as WAV, MP3 or OGG. However, a better solution would be to use a MOD player for Windows which supports exporting to WAV.

[EDIT]
Try ModPlug Player (http://www.modplug.com/playerinfo.html) for converting from MOD to WAV.

--
moto
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 09:00:46 PM
@motorollin

What I want to do is connect the Amiga through the PC's line-in socket via a mixer to reduce the "hard left, hard right" stereo image and to EQ the music a bit. Spit and polish!
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 09:06:24 PM
Just read the details of ModPlug player - it's got the option of EQ so I'll give that a go! Thanks!
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: motorollin on October 14, 2007, 09:09:48 PM
Audacity can certainly record that, and can be used as an EQ as well. You will however get better quality if you export from MOV to WAV using ModPlug rather than recording through an analogue input.

[EDIT]
Just read your more recent post :-) I have tried the WAV export from ModPlug and can confirm it works, and sounds great.
[/EDIT]

--
moto
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 09:10:03 PM
@A4000_Mad

Thanks for your time anyway!
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: KThunder on October 14, 2007, 09:11:28 PM
1. open sound recorder

2. save as "blank" (with winxp you can change properties   while saving all the way up to 48khz stereo)

3. click on edit and insert file

4. insert "blank"

5. you now have a 120 second 48 khz stereo file

6. insert as many times as you need adding 1min each time.

7. save as "big blank"

8. use big blank to record big stuff and save as something else so that you always have the big blank whenever you need it

with windows 98you have to convert the files with audio properties in the edit drop menu iirc
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 09:17:04 PM
@KThunder

Thanks. Found the options.. but why where they hidden until you needed to save a file?? I never would have thought of looking there or doing it that way in the first place.
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: KThunder on October 14, 2007, 09:21:47 PM
the basic accessories microsoft included with windows were never intended to be serious work type stuff.

you can use them for quick stuff or if you know the tricks...

i use wordpad for most of my writing too :-D  
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: motorollin on October 14, 2007, 09:22:13 PM
Quote
Anthomatic wrote:
why where they hidden until you needed to save a file?? I never would have thought of looking there or doing it that way in the first place.

Welcome to Microsoft.

--
moto
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on October 14, 2007, 09:23:42 PM
@ Anthomatic

Disregard my last mate as they are now on Quick Record 3

http://www.ptpart.co.uk/quickrecord/


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*** NEW FREE OF CHARGE OPTION ***  :banana:
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: KThunder on October 14, 2007, 09:26:42 PM
Quote

motorollin wrote:
Quote
Anthomatic wrote:
why where they hidden until you needed to save a file?? I never would have thought of looking there or doing it that way in the first place.

Welcome to Microsoft.

--
moto


if microsoft included a complete suite of full featured programs free with the os we would say they were driving our all the other software companies.
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 14, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
Some great info here!

Ok. I'm gonna use both ModPlug and Audacity or Quick Record - I need to transfer some old music modules that only exist on audio tape. Better blow the dust off first... :-)
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on October 15, 2007, 10:23:25 AM
@ Anthromatic

I actually still use Sound Recorder to trim some of my WAVE files captured with Quick Record as it has the two options:-

Delete Before Current Position

and

Delete After Current Position


My 'Wave Options' in Quick Record are:-

Sampling rate: 44100
Channels: Stereo
Bits per sample: 16


Oh... To convert my WAVE files to MP3 I've been using a program called CDex.

Good luck mate :pint:
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: Anthomatic on October 15, 2007, 01:34:05 PM
@A4000_Mad

That's useful to know - I'll need to clean up the sample's start and finish. No doubt there will be unwanted noise and the like, just to ruin all my hard work!!

Thanks for your advice.
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: sir_inferno on October 15, 2007, 02:14:58 PM
audacity is good for recording and manipulation. when i want to change my mods to mp3s, i either load up winamp (what with it's built in mod support) and usethe diskwriter output to change each one into an mp3. alternative method is installing that windows codec pack that allows direct show players to play mod, xm etc files. then all i do is fire up windows media player and then just convert it.
Title: Re: Something better than sound recorder!!!
Post by: amigaksi on October 16, 2007, 05:28:32 AM
>I actually still use Sound Recorder to trim some of my WAVE >files captured with Quick Record as it has the two options:-
>
>Delete Before Current Position
>
>and
>
>Delete After Current Position

You'll like the options in SPS:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320170960114

SPS was built to help me use all Amiga/Atari/PC files all in one software.  You can specify the exact samples you want to delete and will let you flip sign bits for converting amiga raw data files into WAV files.  I don't use MP3s since it's hard to tell what you're losing when you compress it.  Also, SPS will let you playback the files on Amiga/Atari via the cable and MPDOS available at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320170468574
(for Atari)
and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320170552951

However, you don't need either of the cables in order to use the software on the PC for editing and lossless compression.  And I can email you the software so you won't have to wait for shipping.