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Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« on: August 21, 2003, 05:54:04 PM »
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I should also like to remind the community, and those users of the Amiga Operating System, that the End User License Agreement clearly states that the license for use is only valid, on Amiga branded machines. Therefore if the Amiga operating system is being used on a non-Amiga branded machine the use would be prohibited.


I'm affraid this is factually inacurate. < = OS3.1 has no EULA whatsoever. OS3.5 doesn't mention what it is to be run on and has an option to register for UAE. OS3.9 even has an option to 'Install Emulation'. If I get the time later I will make some screenshots.

So what the heck is Bill talking about? Is it pure fantasy or just what he wishes it stated? Also any potential EULA for 3.5 and 3.9 would be the result of and responsible by H&P, not AI right? They are not a product of and not owned by AI to this day AFAIK. Sour grapes?

BTW this thread will stay clean, I will use a heavy hand if needed. State your opinion no matter what it is just no insults or flames.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2003, 06:00:09 PM »
@Marktime

But there is no EULA, or at least not in the way Bill stated it.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2003, 06:03:54 PM »
@Coder

Maybe so, if so his wording is terible. How could he be reminding us about a EULA that probably hasn't been written yet by a company other than his own for a product not yet released? :-?
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2003, 06:33:53 PM »
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From the OS 3.9 licensing agreement:

"This License allows you to to install and use the Amiga Software on a single Amiga-labelled or Amiga-licensed computer at a time."

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"This license allows you to install or operate the Amiga Software only on a computer system that had a version of Amiga OS installed on it at the time you acquired such computer system."

So, I think that McEwen reference to the EULA is a fair and resonable one in view of Bill Buck's voiced intention to bundle OS 3.9 with pegasos.



OK I stand somewhat corrected. So how is it that OS3.9 has a 'Install Emulation' feature? Kind of backwards isn't it?
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2003, 07:43:03 PM »
No actually it wasz bought way before that, an original version AFAIK. When I get home I will make a screenshot.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2003, 07:51:23 PM »
@lempkee

No sorry, that was aimed at seer concerning OS3.9.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2003, 10:02:52 PM »
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a EULA is a valid contract


Please point me to court cases where this has been enforced.

Sodomy is illegal in some US states. Does that make being gay illegal there? I guess so! Would it hold up in court? No.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2003, 12:32:15 PM »
@tintin

Nobody special? pfft :-o  Welcome to Amiga.org(or welcome back) :-)
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2003, 01:15:22 PM »
@Serpi

No problem with your question. Really the only interest in ) OS3.9 for MOS users like myself is convience. OS3.9's biggest plus is it bundles tons of freeware off Aminet that Amigans use daily and take for granted. It basically saves time so you don't have to scour Aminet for additional LIBS and such. MOS user can get by without it just fine, but it does add value.

I'd say think of installing OS3.1 fresh on an Amiga. You'd spend alot of time on Aminet adding all the little tidbits you want to spruce up your system. Don't get me wrong, MOS1.4 is much more complete than OS3.1 but you get my point.
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Re: Adult conversation about this whole EULA issue.
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2003, 01:37:36 PM »
@Serpi

Personally I wouldn't bother buying an OS3.9 CD if I purchased a Pegasos right now. I am just trying to explain why someone might.
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