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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: sheepz on July 12, 2022, 03:55:22 PM

Title: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on July 12, 2022, 03:55:22 PM
Hi

As me other post, I have got my A2000 back up and running, I have a TF1260 on my A1200 and its all I really need. Is there something for the A2000 that I am missing?

Regards

Barry
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: BozzerBigD on July 13, 2022, 09:09:38 AM
From the title of your thread you're missing a Motorola 68060 CPU!  ;D
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on July 13, 2022, 10:03:35 AM
Maybe I should have been more clear, is there any "NEW" accelerator cards for the A2000 that have the 060 processor?  :P
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: TribbleSmasher on July 13, 2022, 06:51:52 PM
The TerribeFire2040/60 will come out, but i guess it will be next year by then, as the TF360rev3 and the TF4060 need most current attention.
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on July 14, 2022, 07:43:43 AM
Hi

That's great, I might get the TF536 for just now then swap it over to my A500 once the A2000 unit comes out.

Or Firebird, there is too much choice for my 32 year old computer  ;D

Thanks

Barry
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: BozzerBigD on July 14, 2022, 02:35:46 PM
While you're at it, have a go at turning your Scirocco  into a Delorean! ;)
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: QuikSanz on July 14, 2022, 03:25:39 PM
You can not knock an good old 2000 Big D, it may have a slow buss but if you unload it with fast memory on the Accelerator you can put a graphics card and it's pretty good! I had a Tekmagic in my 2000 until the card died, now it's back on the Gforce 030. Need a Vampire!

Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on July 27, 2022, 09:25:28 AM
You can not knock an good old 2000 Big D, it may have a slow buss but if you unload it with fast memory on the Accelerator you can put a graphics card and it's pretty good! I had a Tekmagic in my 2000 until the card died, now it's back on the Gforce 030. Need a Vampire!

Yeah, with all those Zorro slots, its what is keeping me away from the Vampire / Firebird as I would like to fill them with a graphics card, memory card and stuff, or I might as well have kept my A500 ( I lie, I have always wanted a big box amiga, although I could only afford a A1500  ;D ).

Also, its such a cool looking machine with the key board and 1084st monitor on top!
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: QuikSanz on July 27, 2022, 01:09:00 PM
I have been chatting with Gunnar because I have at least 2 Zorro cards that cannot go, Must have Zorro w/Firebird!!

Chris
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on July 27, 2022, 01:23:07 PM
I have been chatting with Gunnar because I have at least 2 Zorro cards that cannot go, Must have Zorro w/Firebird!!

Chris

Hi Chris

If I was to go firebird my plan was to use a CPU to Zorro re-locator into the CPU slot. Will the Fireboard cause issues with the Zorro bus?

Regards

Barry
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: QuikSanz on July 27, 2022, 10:56:34 PM
Guunar says many have been tested, should not be a problem but not all cards can be tested because there are just too many of them.

Chris
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on August 09, 2022, 08:05:04 AM
Guunar says many have been tested, should not be a problem but not all cards can be tested because there are just too many of them.

Chris

Thanks Chris, I has ordered a TF536 so fingers crossed, but if it causes an issue I will just have to use it in my old A500!  ;D

Regards

Barry
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: mechy on August 11, 2022, 06:54:33 PM
Not sure but check out the Warp560,i think it could be used in a A2000

http://amigawarp.eu/1_6_warp560.html?a=gallery1
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on August 12, 2022, 10:10:14 AM
Not sure but check out the Warp560,i think it could be used in a A2000

http://amigawarp.eu/1_6_warp560.html?a=gallery1

Hi Mechy

Looks good, I think I did see it, But at 500 EURO without a CPU and you have to use the full 68060 it get a bit too expensive.

The TF536 is due today so look forward to fitting it and giving it a go!

Regards

Barry
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: HGC on November 03, 2022, 03:19:31 AM
Do you really need a 68060 processor in your Amiga 2000, or is this just to boost your stupid ego?  I do not know of any Amiga software that requires a 68060 processor.  About 90% of all software for the Amiga computers was programmed and sold between 1985 to 1990.  The ECS and Kickstart / Workbench 2.04 was released around the middle of 1990.  So, what do these facts tell us?  They tell us that 90% of all Amiga software runs the best on the OCS, a 68000 processor, Kickstart 1.2 / 1.3, and Workbench 1.2 / 1.3.
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: QuikSanz on November 03, 2022, 04:22:11 AM

Surveys show the 030/50 is the best for compatibility,
for more speed it usually is not justified unless running Napalm, Genetic Species or the like.

Chris
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: outlawal2 on November 03, 2022, 04:02:03 PM
Stupid ego? Really?

Who the EFF are you to determine what he should or should not have in his 2000?
With that attitude I highly recommend you walk away from this and any other decent forum and not come back.


Buh Bye!

Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: redfox on November 04, 2022, 02:17:50 AM
@HGC

If he wants to find a 68060 why not?  It's his hobby and his choice.

Years ago, I purchased my A2000HD.  It came stock with 68000 CPU, SCSI controller, hard drive and single floppy drive, Kickstart 1.3 and Workbench 1.3.

However, some time later, I upgraded to Kickstart 3.1 and Workbench 3.1 ...

I added some more memory, a CD-ROM drive and a flickerfixer card.

I often wished that I had an accelerator board, but other expenses were more important at the time.

However, I was able to run that ancient Amiga on dial-up internet using ppp, AmiTCP/IP and AWeb-II.

---
redfox
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: HyAmi on November 04, 2022, 05:48:11 AM
HGC = Doomy/doommaster.
In this light; could anyone be surprised by his opinion?  ;)

I hope that the TF2060 and Warp560 (Warp2060 would be even better ;D) will become available. We just have to find a good number of 060s...
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: F0LLETT on November 04, 2022, 09:15:51 AM
Do you really need a 68060 processor in your Amiga 2000, or is this just to boost your stupid ego?  I do not know of any Amiga software that requires a 68060 processor.  About 90% of all software for the Amiga computers was programmed and sold between 1985 to 1990.  The ECS and Kickstart / Workbench 2.04 was released around the middle of 1990.  So, what do these facts tell us?  They tell us that 90% of all Amiga software runs the best on the OCS, a 68000 processor, Kickstart 1.2 / 1.3, and Workbench 1.2 / 1.3.

Strike Two.
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: AndyFC on November 04, 2022, 08:41:18 PM
Hi Sheepz, is it specifically a 060 CPU you want or something to make your A2000 faster?

There are a couple of recent options if it doesn't have to be an 060. As well as the Apollo Firebird you can also get the PiStorm: It replaces the 68000 CPU with an adapter and a Raspberry Pi 3 which then runs software to emulate a fast 68030. (loads of results if you Google it)
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: mechy on November 05, 2022, 07:27:40 PM
I agree, its very pricey,but you essentially get a lot for the price, rom switcher,ethernet(wifi),fast IDE,,16bit audio,graphics card ,USB etc. all on the fast slot,bypassing zorroII bottleneck . price those cards individually and you will likely come up with a price that is very close.. Assuming you want all that stuff of course :) Prices of 060 have become ridiculous,but you can usually find a rev1 cheap(reasonable??) if 50-66mhz suits you ok. Imho it is an amazing card.
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: sheepz on November 07, 2022, 09:48:08 AM
Hi Sheepz, is it specifically a 060 CPU you want or something to make your A2000 faster?

There are a couple of recent options if it doesn't have to be an 060. As well as the Apollo Firebird you can also get the PiStorm: It replaces the 68000 CPU with an adapter and a Raspberry Pi 3 which then runs software to emulate a fast 68030. (loads of results if you Google it)

Hi Andy

As I said, I now have a TF536 which I am now more than happy with. Its just I dip in and out the Amiga scene and was just wondering what's available. I had a Pistorm on my A500+ but it didn't really do it for me. I like the building up of machines, more than the software side (anyhoo I have it for sale on eBay now as I have a A4000 project to pay for!)

Regards

Barry
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: AndyFC on November 07, 2022, 11:35:31 AM
Ah, sorry. I'd not noticed that the thread was started over the summer and I missed your post saying you'd got a TF when scanning through the conversation.
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: QuikSanz on November 09, 2022, 01:19:16 PM
Terrible Fire does not appear to have an FPU, does it?

Chris
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: AndyFC on November 11, 2022, 12:18:49 AM
It appears to depend on the board. The TF536 doesn't, but the TF534 does have an FPU

https://amigastore.eu/885-terrible-fire-536-64mb.html
https://amigastore.eu/702-terrible-fire-534.html
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: kolla on November 11, 2022, 03:36:16 PM
Remember back in the days when one could buy accelerator boards with both FPU AND a decent amount of RAM?

Fun times!!
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: QuikSanz on November 11, 2022, 05:57:16 PM
looks like not 32 bit ram, uses Zorro space, Yuk..

Chris
Title: Re: Amiga A2000 - Is there any new 060s that are available?
Post by: Malakie on November 15, 2022, 10:42:10 PM
The TerribeFire2040/60 will come out, but i guess it will be next year by then, as the TF360rev3 and the TF4060 need most current attention.


Has TF cards been reworked to support A2091 or other scsi HD cards?  The older TF cards don't apparently.