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Operating System Specific Discussions => AROS Research Operating System => Topic started by: Terminills on November 29, 2011, 03:33:16 AM

Title: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Terminills on November 29, 2011, 03:33:16 AM
http://www.evillabs.net/wiki/index.php/File:AROS-OpenGL.png
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: commodorejohn on November 29, 2011, 03:35:29 AM
Pretty spiffy! Don't suppose this means the advent of compositing window management on AROS?
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Terminills on November 29, 2011, 03:45:19 AM
Nope it means Jason is working on mesa and gallium for classics :)

Edit: Forgot to mention this should also put the Geforce 5200 PCI + Mediator I sent him to use eventually. :)
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: XDelusion on November 29, 2011, 04:29:50 AM
Classics as in Amithlon too?
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Terminills on November 29, 2011, 10:52:25 AM
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Classics as in Amithlon too?


yes. :)
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Bamiga2002 on November 29, 2011, 12:25:51 PM
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Edit: Forgot to mention this should also put the Geforce 5200 PCI + Mediator I sent him to use eventually. :)
WoOt!?
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Terminills on November 29, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
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WoOt!?


You'll notice in the background the gallium.hidd and softpipe.hidd he's messing with.   So once PCI is properly supported yep we should see nouveau support coming. :)
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: strim on November 29, 2011, 01:28:39 PM
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You'll notice in the background the gallium.hidd and softpipe.hidd he's messing with.   So once PCI is properly supported yep we should see nouveau support coming. :)


Pretty cool, will this PCI stuff be open source too?
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: bloodline on November 29, 2011, 01:34:32 PM
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Pretty cool, will this PCI stuff be open source too?
All part of AROS ;)
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: touringsedan on November 29, 2011, 01:42:31 PM
Very exciting, this could give us another 20 years with our trusty Amiga's.
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Paulie85 on November 29, 2011, 02:59:16 PM
Can someone please explain the significance of this to me? I don't really understand-it's a 3d API? Are classics capable of much in the way of 3d?
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: fishy_fiz on November 29, 2011, 03:14:34 PM
Nice.
What pci system is it using? Openpci would be lovely, and makes the most sense, but if I recall AROS uses prometheus? Is anything changing here for 68k?
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: wawrzon on November 29, 2011, 03:30:24 PM
the demo reall doesnt show it since its not gl based, but mesa is confirmed working. more to come i think.
as for pci there is a discussion but no consensus as to how it has to be done. openpci has been rejected as far as i understand, prometheus is an option. i dont know how this is going to be handled yet. nevertheless jason should have working mediator machine soon, so we will not wait long i bet.
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: fishy_fiz on November 29, 2011, 04:03:55 PM
Shame. No amithlon support then for hardware rendering and software rendering we (amithlon) already have.
I was hoping this'd bring something new for me.

Oh well, nice for those with supported hardware. I assume it'll just be one pci expansion then?
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: fishy_fiz on November 29, 2011, 04:06:52 PM
@Paulie85

To over simplify things, gallium is the at the driver level and mesa is the software/api level (basically an opengl implementation).
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: wawrzon on November 29, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Terminills;669466
Nope it means Jason is working on mesa and gallium for classics :)

Edit: Forgot to mention this should also put the Geforce 5200 PCI + Mediator I sent him to use eventually. :)


he had no working cpu module and motherboard, but i filled in the gap already. he should have it soon.
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Terminills on November 29, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;669511
he had no working cpu module and motherboard, but i filled in the gap already. he should have it soon.


I heard.  He told me last night. :D
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: wawrzon on November 29, 2011, 05:18:03 PM
has he received that stuff? i havent heard from him for a while.
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: wawrzon on November 29, 2011, 05:25:40 PM
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Shame. No amithlon support then for hardware rendering and software rendering we (amithlon) already have.
I was hoping this'd bring something new for me.

Oh well, nice for those with supported hardware. I assume it'll just be one pci expansion then?


currently its all in software, whether for amithlor or 68k amigas, what concerns amithlon i dont know how pci support is done within the os. is it based on openpci? i proposed it on the dev list as possibility to have one cross platform pci support system but it was generally rejected as aros has pci.hidd already and openpci is "too ugly". you might open a discussion on aros exec, since nothing has been decided as yet, for what i know. i think it is an important subject.
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: Terminills on November 29, 2011, 07:09:42 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;669516
has he received that stuff? i havent heard from him for a while.


Not yet.   you know how international shipping is. :(
Title: Re: Look what's coming to classics!!
Post by: NovaCoder on November 29, 2011, 10:25:55 PM
So Classic users will have a more modern graphics implementation than OS4 users?

:)