Sorry Calen,
After Bill Buck announced that Wayne had joined Genesi and Ben Hermans made the comment about Kermit (getting him drunk and talking him into porting ImageFX to OS4), Bill followed up with another comment stating that Kermit worked for him (Genesi). Likewise, Kermit stated that he didn't drink (he does not by the way).
The show was fun....I just got back from there.
Regards,
Lee Stanford