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Re: WTB: Cyberstorm PPC
« on: May 28, 2011, 04:30:02 AM »
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I don't know. The cost of the components on a Cyberstorm PPC aren't anywhere near that high.
I'm not sure what the market would be, but if Jens can still find buyers for 68K accelerators there ought to be a market for PPC accelerators.


I used to think that the A3000/T and A4000/T CPU connectors were these rare beasts but somewhere in my multi-hundreds of bookmarks I've got a source for the pin edge connectors for those things.

I think the A1200 edge connectors are a bit harder to source though (they probably have to be custom built)
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Re: WTB: Cyberstorm PPC
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 03:32:06 PM »
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You'll have to PM me a few of the better sources for those. The only real problem with new PPC accelerators would be obtaining good design documentation/schematics. We could actually build faster units (and possibly add more memory).


I'm not finding the link; I think I saw it posted at EAB (always a good go-to for that sort of thing).

if you ask in support.hardware there's bound to be someone who remembers.  It may have been Alex H. who posted it up.

Point being, I took one look at the connector and had an "Oh my god, that's really the right one!" moment.
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Re: WTB: Cyberstorm PPC
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 07:27:09 PM »
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Re-manufacturing the old BPPC and CSPPC cards would be the cheapest way to go, but this would involve obtaining all of the design information.  It would be good if we could obtain this information (even from a self interest point of view), but I doubt they will ever release it unfortunately, which is a shame.
Assuming we did obtain all the information necessary to re-manufacture the boards, then we'd have all kinds of obselecence and Rohs compliance issues to deal with as Kronos has already mentioned.


Someone, either here or at AW.net said they'd tracked down one of the chief designers of the P5 boards asking about that very thing (releasing the designs) and was quoted $200,000 as the lowest starting price for that info.
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Re: WTB: Cyberstorm PPC
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 08:15:44 PM »
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That is way beyond realistic. I have my doubts that the entire original run of those cards netted that much.


I just recall that as being what was quoted as the asking price.  I'm of the opinion (if I am remembering correctly) it was so high because virtually anyone who has tried to make a business out of anything Amiga winds up embittered and spiteful - to a one.  If that's the case then why would anyone want to do anything decent and charitable for a community they hate?

What was it Ben Hermans said not too long ago?  That all Amiga users could go die in a fire for all he cared or something like that?

If that's the prevalent mindset, is it any wonder an engineer would pull this "nyah nyah you can't have it" attitude.
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Re: WTB: Cyberstorm PPC
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 02:04:57 AM »
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Can you please state who it is this person from phase 5 they talked to? There are only 3 people in the world (maybe 4) that have that data, and by stating a number like $200k sounds like "dont bother me"  :)


Mmm nope.  This was as I said in a thread either here or at awn, you'd have to search.  I wonder if it was Thomas Dellert?  Does that ring a bell?

Like I said it was ages ago.

I still think any commercial ventures to do with "advancing" the Amiga create spiteful people.

Jens Schonefeld and the various natami team members, fpga-Amiga cloners and Toni Wilen are all exempt from that; they seem to have a healthy attitude towards what they're doing.  Once people get some pie in the sky amiga is going to take over the world attitude their brains break and when it doesn't happen, and the complaints roll in because they can't deliver, the haterade starts flowing.
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Re: WTB: Cyberstorm PPC
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 05:22:28 PM »
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who would spend that kind of money then be willing sit on the goods until it's value evaporated?


Again: companies involved with the post C= Amiga seem to wind up hating their customers, and do things (like demanding $200k for a board design, for example) out of pure malice.

Well, I guess GVP gets a pass; they did a run of 060 A2000 cards a couple years back!
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