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Title: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 15, 2012, 06:09:12 PM
http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Amiga-OSX-Screenshot-85248.html

Thats kinda funny...
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: spirantho on December 15, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
CommodoreOS? What's that? :P

(As this is a forum, please note there is satire in this post! :) )
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 15, 2012, 07:40:23 PM
Apparently, they have hired new developers who will take commodore os into the future...

By spending countless development minutes skinning it to look more like amiga OS.


Who knows this grand new vision of commodoreOS's future might also include new wallpapers, or other worthless eye candy that takes minutes and minutes to make.

Silly commodoreUSA, Leave mint linux alone.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: spirantho on December 15, 2012, 07:59:26 PM
I don't think this is CUSA actually. This is apparently done by one Buffo Luciano, and I don't recognise that name from the CUSA staff  (all three of them).

OT:
To be honest I think they've all given up and gone home anyway. The forums seem to be run by one person, Barry hasn't posted on the forums since August, last I checked - there's no "Amiga" range available any more at all, and I don't even know if they're still selling the C64x.  I think there's only Leo doing anything these days, by reskinning Linux Mint.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: Blinx123 on December 15, 2012, 09:38:52 PM
Someone must've simply posted this in the wrong section.

Those screenshots aren't even from a Linux distro. They're from MacOSX.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2012, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: Blinx123;719262
Someone must've simply posted this in the wrong section.

Those screenshots aren't even from a Linux distro. They're from MacOSX.


"Amiga OSX is a GNOME icon theme for the Commodore OS Linux distribution."
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: billt on December 15, 2012, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: haywirepc;719248
http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Amiga-OSX-Screenshot-85248.html

Thats kinda funny...



Is Commodore OS anything more than a theme on Mint? so if you put a different theme on it, is anything of Commodore OS left?
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: Methuselas on December 15, 2012, 11:19:31 PM
Quote from: Rob;719276
"Amiga OSX is a GNOME icon theme for the Commodore OS Linux distribution."



I'm surprised Apple hasn't chimed in about this..... :laugh1:
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: Blinx123 on December 15, 2012, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: Rob;719276
"Amiga OSX is a GNOME icon theme for the Commodore OS Linux distribution."


Holy heck.
You guys are right.

It is indeed Linux.

It does look a lot like MacOSX though. The whole file browser looks basically identical.

I'm really surprised Apple hasn't patent trolled yet.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 16, 2012, 12:01:21 AM
Funny though that it may be illegal for them to be using the commodore name at all now,
given the current legal stuff with the name and so on.

I guess they lost the right to use the amiga name, maybe they stopped paying silly billy and Amiga inc for the stickers?

Strange those amiga mini's and other equally stupid amiga branded pcs just vanished
from their website.

I always think its funny that they just delete stuff from their website and act like that stuff never happened. All those grand plans and big boasts,,, Gone.

Maybe their 3 million dollar advertising budget dried up, so far no tv ads...?

I guess poor leo is left alone to play with his linux mint distro reskinned as commodore os.

So much for the second coming of commodore... (yeah right!)

Commodore OS... hahahaha. Wow linux mint with a commodore wallpaper.
IMPRESSIVE.

:pint:

Those guys have to lay off the booze...
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: Kesa on December 16, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
Haywire, wasn't it $30 Million and not $3 Million?

Anyway i think those icons look great and i'm thinking i may have to install that theme for my newly installed MATE.

Also why is it called osx?
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: danbeaver on December 16, 2012, 12:47:54 AM
"MorphOS causes pregnancy."

Sex causes pregnancy, having it that is; MorphOS causes the opposite.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: Kesa on December 16, 2012, 01:06:50 AM
"sex causes pregnancy". What are you talking about?    :huh:
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: danbeaver on December 16, 2012, 06:54:45 AM
Quote from: Kesa;719294
"sex causes pregnancy". What are you talking about?    :huh:


Odd, so tell me how your mum and dad Morphed you?
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: CritAnime on December 16, 2012, 08:12:07 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;719253
Apparently, they have hired new developers who will take commodore os into the future...

By spending countless development minutes skinning it to look more like amiga OS.


Who knows this grand new vision of commodoreOS's future might also include new wallpapers, or other worthless eye candy that takes minutes and minutes to make.

Silly commodoreUSA, Leave mint linux alone.

They "forked", if you can even call it that, their distro into two seperate distro's. Leo is working on the new Vision, the one you download, and then this new guy is working on Fusion, the one they intend to dump on their system.

Recently Leo asked their forums to start making tutorials for him and asked for help skinning the Mate desktop. My question would be why someone who was apparently hired for their technical "expertise" suddenly needs all this help skinning it. The tutorials I kind of can understand because they do take time to write. However the rest he should be able to do if he is the tech expert. Given the fact that Leo has had very little involvement with the community in terms of help I also do wonder how much involvement he has in the company at all.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: Bamiga2002 on December 16, 2012, 08:48:18 AM
CommodoreOS is ****e, long die CommodoreOS!
I'm happy they've gone away. It was a ridiculous attempt anyway. :destroy:
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 16, 2012, 01:03:20 PM
Your right it was a 30 million dollar advertising budget. (for youtube videos?)

A "chief technical officer" asking the community for help skinning linux mint with commodore themed wallpapers....?

Thats funny on so many levels...

Also funny that they just happily go on using the commodore name with no legal right to do so. I'm starting commodore international myself, but we're going to use a different linux distro for our own "commodoreOS".

Where are all those previous cool aid drinkers of commodoreUSA now?

Busy teaching the "chief technical officer" to make wallpapers?

:p
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: persia on December 16, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
WTF is Amiga OSX?  Is it suppose to be Linux pretending to be OSX pretending to be Amiga OS?
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: CritAnime on December 16, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
http://forums.commodore.net/showthread.php?1288-error-codemight -needed-please&p=2476&viewfull=1#post2476

Oooo any day now. Are you excited kiddies!  Lol. Oh my it might be worth a download for a laugh.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 16, 2012, 04:04:02 PM
I'd only bother installing COSV1 beta/update 9 for the moment.
The only reason COSV2 isn't out is because I keep finding something that was missed.Any day now to betatesters. Sorry for the delay.

Commodore OS is up to 2.0 without a single line of actual code written?

Maybe those guys are smarter than people give them credit for. Why waste
time coding an os when you can spend your time just making wallpapers?

Thats AWESOME.

:)

Steven
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: cgutjahr on December 16, 2012, 04:39:57 PM
Quote from: haywirepc;719334
Thats funny on so many levels...

No, it's not. It's just boring, this is why there's a separate sub forum for this kind of stuff ("CommodoreUSA Amiga"), somebody needs to move this thread there.

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Funny though that it may be illegal for them to be using the commodore name at all now,
given the current legal stuff with the name and so on.

AFAIK, they never paid a single cent for their license to use the Commodore name - Asiarim's SEC reports kept repeating until late 2011 that they hadn't recieved any licensing fees from their only licensor (CUSA) yet.

That's when dutch C=Holding and Asiarim started fighting over who owns it anyway, I doubt Barry has been paying either of them anything since then.

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I guess they lost the right to use the amiga name, maybe they stopped paying silly billy and Amiga inc for the stickers?

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say they never paid anything. It's not like McEwen looks like he could force you to play nice, so it's worth a try - right? It worked with Asiarim, after all.

Then somebody connected to Kourri's estate showed up, and made it pretty clear that they're expected to pay or their asses will be dragged to court. As the 'Amiga line' probably sold like crap anyway, they just dumped it.

As I said - just a guess.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: eliyahu on December 16, 2012, 04:48:52 PM
@thread

guys: remember we have a CUSA-specific forum on the site.  please try to remember to open your CUSA-related threads here in future. thanks!

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 16, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
I think its relevant as general amiga chat...

After all, they had at one point amiga branded computers and all these plans.

Dumping it here insures no one will see or hear of it.

Are they getting special treatment from amiga.org to hide their failures?

How come os4, morphOS and AmigaOS successes or failures can get openly discussed as general amiga chat but not the stuff from this "company" ?
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: B00tDisk on December 16, 2012, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: haywirepc;719347
Why waste
time coding an os when you can spend your time just making wallpapers?


Hell, djnick got a free A1 board promising to do just that.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: cgutjahr on December 16, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: haywirepc;719355
How come os4, morphOS and AmigaOS successes or failures can get openly discussed as general amiga chat but not the stuff from this "company" ?

You could of course "openly discuss" CUSA if you wanted to - right here on amiga.org.

Problem is: people never do that when CUSA is involved.  They're usually just bashing them, like you're doing in this thread - linking to a skin released by an unknown user, the page linked to doesn't even mention "Commodore" at all, yet your thread is titled 'os4 theme for "commodore os"? hahahaha'.

That's not called discussing. And because neither the "haters" nor the "CUSA fanboys" seem to be able to hold back, even the people who really want to discuss CUSA (I doubt there are any left) have to do it in the basement.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: CritAnime on December 16, 2012, 07:30:29 PM
Actually do a little research. The title page clearly says it's for Commodore OS. Along with the name of the guy publishing it. Although to be fair I don't get the osx thing.

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Icons/Amiga-OSX-85248.shtml

The cusa threads do gain heat. But I have seen far worse in those ridiculous red vs blue threads. So wind your neck in. No one is forcing you to go on these threads. It's in its correct sub forum now so chill out.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 16, 2012, 08:38:04 PM
I agree, its obviously marked for "commodoreOS"
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: CritAnime on December 16, 2012, 09:02:25 PM
Just so I don't get accused of idle trolling I have used cos. I know the flaws and I know how bloated it is. The theme is hurtful to the eyes and I ended up stripping most of the themes stuff because it was just pointless. It was also a bitch to get working because of numerous bugs and the fact the kernel was way outdated.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: cgutjahr on December 16, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: CritAnime;719371
The title page clearly says it's for Commodore OS.

You're right, no idea how I could miss that. Doesn't change my point that this thread is anything but "open discussion" though.

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It's in its correct sub forum now so chill out.

Somebody was arguing it should be moved out again and I replied to that. That is actually called discussion.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: CritAnime on December 16, 2012, 09:47:51 PM
Actually I found it interesting that someone made an icon pack that is actually better than the icons that came in the "base" system.

There can also be discussions with banter thrown in. It's when that banter becomes arguing and butthurt that it's probably time to pull the plug.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 16, 2012, 10:12:00 PM
I don't understand all the technical problems they have had since all they are doing is skinning linux mint with their own wallpapers and adding too many pre-installed apps.

I never did a respin of linux mint but I have done one of vector linux (slackware based) puppy linux, and ubuntu. You just install whatever software you want, change theme, icons, and wallpaper and point and click to remaster...

I don't see that as a tremendous technical challenge, especially when you are targeting such a limited hardware pool.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: persia on December 16, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
Yes, but what does Amiga OSX mean?  Is it Amiga, OSX or some weird combination of the two that he's aiming for?

Quote from: CritAnime;719371
Actually do a little research. The title page clearly says it's for Commodore OS. Along with the name of the guy publishing it. Although to be fair I don't get the osx thing.

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Icons/Amiga-OSX-85248.shtml

The cusa threads do gain heat. But I have seen far worse in those ridiculous red vs blue threads. So wind your neck in. No one is forcing you to go on these threads. It's in its correct sub forum now so chill out.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 16, 2012, 11:30:40 PM
Yeah maybe he's going for a combination of both, I don't know I'm not very familar with osx icons and themes, never ran it myself...

Otherwise maybe they are dumb enough to call their new respin amiga osx?

Would not surprise me, they stole text descriptions of mac computers straight from apples website before, copied and pasted their own computer names in... That was one of their websites, you can still see it with wayback machine.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: commodorejohn on December 17, 2012, 12:07:43 AM
At this point I really wouldn't put any theoretical limit on their laziness/shamelessness. I just have to wonder how they ever concluded that labelling Linux as "OSX" would help to sell it when the underlying product hasn't actually changed.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: CritAnime on December 17, 2012, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;719401
I don't understand all the technical problems they have had since all they are doing is skinning linux mint with their own wallpapers and adding too many pre-installed apps.

I never did a respin of linux mint but I have done one of vector linux (slackware based) puppy linux, and ubuntu. You just install whatever software you want, change theme, icons, and wallpaper and point and click to remaster...

I don't see that as a tremendous technical challenge, especially when you are targeting such a limited hardware pool.

The issues seem to be coming from the fact he is using scripts and drivers that don't come as standard with the installation. That and he is using an outdated base distro meaning all the new and "powerful" hardware they use won't have any support. Most can be a simple fix but it's all a pain in the arse to do.

The version 2 of COS he seems to be using a newer version of Mint and I would hope that he sticks to just skinning it. Because some of the bugs and glitches are just silly.

Quote from: commodorejohn;719411
At this point I really wouldn't put any theoretical limit on their laziness/shamelessness. I just have to wonder how they ever concluded that labelling Linux as "OSX" would help to sell it when the underlying product hasn't actually changed.

I don't think the guy who did this icon pack has anything to do with CUSA. But it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up in the upcoming release.

edit==

Ok here is a really odd theory about the name. OS 4 sometimes gets referred to as OS 4.x so has the guy just missed the 4. and instead put OSX?
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 17, 2012, 06:53:14 PM
If I was doing a respin of any linux distro, the first thing I'd do is make sure I had the latest version iso...

Gottta love a "chief technical officer" who dosn't know how to write scripts doing so anyway with an old linux version on top of that...

AMAZING.
Title: Re: os4 theme for "commodore os?" hahahaha.
Post by: haywirepc on December 18, 2012, 03:08:19 AM
I had the isos here and just to satisfy my curiosity I guess... I tried it out.

Its not bad I suppose for a respin... Some thought at least went into the organization of programs and things. The retro sounds not so welcome though,and the color theme hurts my eyes a bit.

Otherwise not bad, especially if your too lazy to install your own programs, there is alot of stuff here to play with I suppose.

I don't think I would use this over vanilla mint linux though... or vector, or ubuntu or any other distro. It sure wouldn't be enough to entice me to spend so much on off the shelf hardware with a commodore logo.

I suppose that the theme in cos does go with the stickers/logo on their pcs though if your that hardcore about commodore.

If I really wanted a commodore themed computer,I think I'd rather make a custom machine with my own stickers and my own wallpapers on some version of linux with vice and eau installed.

I kinda did that with a white 2.X ghz cybernet zpc running winuae but I removed the windows shell. It boots straight to amiga os3.x. Runs most things
amiga nicely and has an amiga sticker on it.

It quad boots that setup, along with linux, another regular instance of windows xp and aros also.

This machine also has amiga forever with the amigasys and amikit setups...

I'd like to add haiku and os2 or ecomstation someday also, but the hard drive is not so big atm.

Anyhow, even for a true commodore fan, I would not use this, and I think
I'd be disappointed in this cos if I did buy some of their very expensive
hardware and this was what they gave me with it.