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Coffee House => Coffee House Boards => CH / Science and Technology => Topic started by: countzero on December 12, 2010, 12:09:56 PM
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I guess its finally time for me to ditch my docomo-foma and move to a smart phone ...
I've seen the HTC Desire HD and I must say it looks sexy
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirehd/specification.html
I know apple has a stronger app market but I'm not sure I'll be needing a sequencer or voice synthesis on my phone. mission critical stuff seems to have been ported to the android (office suite related stuff, gps-map, facebook, etc ...) is there any reason for me to choose apple ? if not I'ld really like to avoid having to use stuff like i-tunes ...
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Better of with one of these, it's the Och Aye Phone from McApple... :)
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/MobliePhoneJoke01-1-1.jpg)
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Android is pretty awesome, tons of apps and a broad range of hardware to choose from.
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Does Android have Multi-touch?
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Depends on the model, but for the most part, yes.
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Android is great... if you like having your personal information sent to who knows who across the internet without your permission. Say what you want about Apple's control over app store content, but I'd rather know that everything I run is safe.
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Android is great... if you like having your personal information sent to who knows who across the internet without your permission. Say what you want about Apple's control over app store content, but I'd rather know that everything I run is safe.
I'm not sure about Apple not using your personal information. They all abuse our right for privacy, and I do not understand why nobody in the politics do something about it.
I only kind-of trust mobiles with complete open source software.
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I'm not sure about Apple not using your personal information. They all abuse our right for privacy, and I do not understand why nobody in the politics do something about it.
I only kind-of trust mobiles with complete open source software.
It's not so much Apple I'm worried about; the stats on third party Android apps which sent personal information without consent were scary.
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I have an iphone 3gs and just got an htc desire hd this week.
If I had to sum it quick the biggest advantage to the htc is the screen size. I have to be honest here, I am getting closer to 40 :( and my eyesight is suffering.
It is incredible what an extra 1 inch does to the screen.
Therefore
iphone: better apps, closed system, still no flash player!
desire hd: great screen, plus android is cool :-)
IMO go for the htc if you use it more as a smart phone and iphone if you use it more as a phone ! Does this make sense?
ps. keep in mind that the Desire HD battery is pitiful small and might but just might last a day with 3g data and wifi enabled.
rgds
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@valeru
In your position, I would rather do this:
(http://images.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/apple-iphone-reviews-under-the-magnifying-glass.jpg)
;)
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You can't beat the range of apps on the iPhone. I've been disappointed with the apps on my Android phone - still no Sim City!
Also the iPhone integrates very nicely with iTunes, making it very simple to operate and transfer media.
However it does lack some things - you can't just use it as a USB flash drive - whereas you can with Android. The memory is built-in, most Android phones use MicroSD (which you can plug into an Micro-SD to SD adaptor, and thus into an SD-USB adaptor) which is handy.
You can often get Android phones on cheaper tariffs, but on an equivalent tariff I would get an iPhone 4 these days.
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However it does lack some things - you can't just use it as a USB flash drive
Though it's not quite as convenient as using USB, you can use an iPhone as a wifi drive using various apps on the app store.
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If you are in the US, a lot depends on the carrier you are with.
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I got an iphone from work. Ditched it again as the sound quality is better in my old SE.
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I got an iphone from work. Ditched it again as the sound quality is better in my old SE.
For calls or music?
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I have an HTC Desire (the newish regular Desire) and I'm not a big fan of it. It's cool for watching movies on the go and a quick google and stuff, but as a phone it sucks balls. I just can't seem to make heads or tails of the contact list thingy, the on screen keyboard is useless for my fat fingers, the reaction time when tilting is ridicilous. I have no experience with an IPhone and I'd like to keep it that way. My experience with an IPad is enough to not make me want to pay for any other Apple devices (the IPad was free).
I appreciate having the HTC as a secondary phone for work and enjoying the bonus of it for mediaconsumption on the go, but for making calls and sending SMS messages I'll take my trusty private Nokia E51.
The hacking and messing about aspect of Android phones does appeal to me though, but I haven't found time yet to delve into it.
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(http://dreamsmademe.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/iphone_vs_android_kill_switch.jpg)
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If you are in the US, a lot depends on the carrier you are with.
I'm in Japan, and both are offered by the same carrier (SoftBank)
finally I made my decision. steve (blow) jobs can suck my BALLz :afro: I went for the Android and Desire HD ! hurray ! (naked dancerz doing hula hula here) :afro::banana::banana::banana:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjMGAXEHrRw
can the I-Phuke do this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEFK4Ttktw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbD4kSuxvJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS1jiG2GIxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9IJQnwunbc
no it cant. so TO HELL WITH THE I-PUKE !
The battery is little bit problematic, but its ok for a day if dont fondle it too much. The screen is awesome, speed is very good (much better than the tube stuff I posted) I'm loving this phone !
On a plus side, I just compiled my first hello world ! (yet to run it on the phone though)
http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/hello-world.html
there's also a Atari 8 bit emulator ! and playing Yoomp with gyroscope is so much fun !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqmyLKG1l-4
the only downside is the multitasking nature of the OS makes it so that you have to keep a track of whats running if you want to do some important stuff. like when you're taking a video, and lots of apps running in the background, your video turns out shite. I still need to learn to tweak this baby. But so far, its awesome ! :knuddel:
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I'm in Japan, and both are offered by the same carrier (SoftBank)
finally I made my decision. steve (blow) jobs can suck my BALLz :afro: I went for the Android and Desire HD ! hurray ! (naked dancerz doing hula hula here) :afro::banana::banana::banana:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjMGAXEHrRw
can the I-Phuke do this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEFK4Ttktw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbD4kSuxvJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS1jiG2GIxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9IJQnwunbc
no it cant. so TO HELL WITH THE I-PUKE !
The battery is little bit problematic, but its ok for a day if dont fondle it too much. The screen is awesome, speed is very good (much better than the tube stuff I posted) I'm loving this phone !
On a plus side, I just compiled my first hello world ! (yet to run it on the phone though)
http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/hello-world.html
there's also a Atari 8 bit emulator ! and playing Yoomp with gyroscope is so much fun !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqmyLKG1l-4
the only downside is the multitasking nature of the OS makes it so that you have to keep a track of whats running if you want to do some important stuff. like when you're taking a video, and lots of apps running in the background, your video turns out shite. I still need to learn to tweak this baby. But so far, its awesome ! :knuddel:
Install z4root to one click root your phone, then get SetCPU, JuiceDefender Beta and Autokiller* which will double your battery life.
Then get XMP for your retro MOD playing kicks. :)
Then register at http://forum.xda-developers.com and http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/
*Make sure you get Autokiller, NOT any of the Task Killers, task killers are not good!
PS. iPhones are for hairdressers.
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thanks nicholas ! great stuff ! I just installed them and the change is very obvious ! wonder why makers decide cripple their own devices with the default shit they put ?
anyway, now I'm all set, except for one thing. As a first objective, I'll try to port this to the android ! stay tuned !
http://www.peylow.se/sc68player.html
edit : wow there's some paula emulation in the code too ? this thing is also a mod player ! not that it's really necessary cause XMP covers about all amiga mod needs but cool !
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Here's a direct comparison between an Android and an iPhone phone...
(http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/media/ALeqM5g7MYNhp52ox4aF2WJD7aAdTTuq8g?docId=photo_1293514676873-1-0&size=l)
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here's a more serious comparison. see how DHD slashes ip4 to pieces !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQl-8Tm9AoQ
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here's a more serious comparison. see how DHD slashes ip4 to pieces !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQl-8Tm9AoQ
My HD2 which was released over a year ago wipes the floor with the campPhone 4 and it's not even a native Android phone.
I shall be hacking Gingerbread on to it in the next few days when i get some spare time.
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Greetings,
Is there anyone here who can point me to a site that has side by side comparisons of recent Android phones. Of the sites i've looked at so far, the information seems outdated.
Regards,
AmigaEd
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forum.xda-developers.com ;)
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forum.xda-developers.com ;)
Wow! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you nicholas.
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Wow! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you nicholas.
No probs. :)
You should find http://android.modaco.com/ and http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/ useful too.
No point buying a phone that isn't hackable!
On that note, I recommend getting your hands on an HTC HD2 as they are the ultimate in hacker friendly phones and are very cheap on T-Mobile US if you are in the states.
The phone is capable of running Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro, Windows Phone 7, Andorid 2.1 Eclair, Android 2.2 Froyo, Android 2.3 Gingerbread, any of the HTC Desire/Desire HD/ Desire Z/ Evo 4G Android with Sense ROMS and these OS's are runnable from NAND Flash or SDCard. Multiboot is easily supported too. :)
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thanks nicholas ! great stuff ! I just installed them and the change is very obvious ! wonder why makers decide cripple their own devices with the default shit they put ?
anyway, now I'm all set, except for one thing. As a first objective, I'll try to port this to the android ! stay tuned !
http://www.peylow.se/sc68player.html
edit : wow there's some paula emulation in the code too ? this thing is also a mod player ! not that it's really necessary cause XMP covers about all amiga mod needs but cool !
I was halfway through porting UADE as it uses the UAE engine to play modules using the original 68k assembly replay routines for each mod format.
Someone beat me to it, added sc68, sidplay and a load of other 8bit emulations to it too!
Behold the wonder that is 'Droidsound' on the market!!
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edit : wow there's some paula emulation in the code too ? this thing is also a mod player ! not that it's really necessary cause XMP covers about all amiga mod needs but cool !
I have reported some bugs in XMP for android, particularly in it's MED3 support, but overall it's a decent multiformat mod player.
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I have reported some bugs in XMP for android, particularly in it's MED3 support, but overall it's a decent multiformat mod player.
Have you tried Droidsound yet?
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Have you tried Droidsound yet?
Not yet, but I intend to.
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I just can't seem to make heads or tails of the contact list thingy, the on screen keyboard is useless for my fat fingers, the reaction time when tilting is ridicilous.
I actually found the contact manager pretty good. At first it was a bit of a mess when I noticed the fact I had all my old phone contacts and google contacts mashed together. Then I realised you can link them, so that you have one "entry" in your contact list that is a union of all the various phone numbers and email addresses you had for that person. You can unlink at any time if you make a mistake. It even suggests links when it notices similar names etc. After doing that, it was much better. Then, since I use it primarily as a phone, I told the list manager to only show contacts with phone numbers and all was good.
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A bit off topic, but I recommend Ethereal Dialpad and Etherophone if you haven't run across them yet, fun little noisemakers, theremin-style.
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The most annoying thing about Android is that you have to dial up a number to collect your voicemail. It's a drag after using iPhone and just having the voicemail on the phone.
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Ha, voicemail. How 1990s.
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Ha, voicemail. How 1990s.
Do you have to be such a snob? :confused:
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he's a fan boi. he just can't help it ... it's in the apple genes
http://www.fakesteve.net/
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The most annoying thing about Android is that you have to dial up a number to collect your voicemail. It's a drag after using iPhone and just having the voicemail on the phone.
The most annoying thing about iPhone are the users :lol:
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he's a fan boi. he just can't help it ... it's in the apple genes
Not me, I'm an Android user.
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The most annoying thing about Hyperion OS 4 are the users :lol:
;)
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Let's see you do this with your Android....
(http://cf6.thingd.com/default/125014090362914697_b136f1ff5d4c.jpg)
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Best of both worlds ;)
http://www.amazon.com/Unlocked-Quadband-Android-Capacitive-Screen/dp/B007OQBA84/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1354756192&sr=8-7&keywords=android