Pegasos (MOS) Advantage over AmigaOne (OS4)

[YttriumOx]

by meerschaum on 2003/8/19 11:17:33

in my opinon you can sum it up like this.

AmigaOne's advantages ... the name

AmigaOne's disadvantage...the name, Amiga.inc

Pegasos advantages ... good support, growing community, forward thinking plans

Pegasos dis-advantages (in this market) ... lack of the name


the community?... the moderates dont follow the name they dont follow anything... they see the work of fellow community members and they judge things based in merit... not on its name

What I find interesting is how so many people assume the ONLY reason to buy an AmigaOne is the name.
I haven't seen any more of OS4 than most people (although I know some people who have seen a LOT more), but my decision to buy an AmigaOne over a Pegasos with MorphOS is based SOLELY on what I know of the two systems.  Nothing to do with the name at all.
I'm impressed with the quality of the effort I see going in to developing and testing AmigaOS, where MorphOS feels more like the "free-for-all" situation of Linux.  In itself, this isn't a bad thing, but despite Linux being my primary desktop OS at home, it's still a far cry from the professionally put together feel of AmigaOS.
Also, my only experience with MorphOS thus far has been extremely disappointing.  I do believe people when they say it's stable for them, however the one time I used it, I saw it crash about 6 or 7 times in the space of an hour or two.  And that was just Ambient - nothing to do with apps.
I'm happy with the purchase of my AmigaOne and will be even happier when I can use AmigaOS4 on it.  I hold no bad feelings towards what the MorphOS developers and community are doing with regards to creating an AmigaOS compatible system, and would have indeed welcomed it with open arms were there not another system in the works.  The fragmentation of the community is a very unfortunate side effect of having two projects however, and because of this, despite the good efforts gone into things from the MorphOS developers, I cannot and will not endorse it in any way.  Had my experience led me to believe MorphOS were the superior product, I almost certainly would have the same feelings with regards to OS4.

Regards,
Ben de Waal.

[YttriumOx]

@meerschaum
I understand the lack of faith in Amiga Inc.  But if you look at WHO gives out technical info regarding OS4, it's usually not Amiga Inc at all.  Hyperion are doing a splendid job, but if it were JUST them, I'd probably still have quite a few doubts.
Mostly I base my opinions on the various things said by developers of the various components, the OS4 beta-testers I know (who are altogether far too secretive mostly, but oh well, I can accept that) and my own technical knowledge of systems design - when I read something about how AmigaOS4 will do things, I think about it in relation to how the system is actually going to do things, not just what is claimed.  A good example of this is Petunia - truly a masterpiece of design IMHO.

Also keep in mind that my one experience with MorphOS was NOT good.  So, to look at it from the other perspective, I'd have to have faith in the people telling me all the good things about MorphOS.  I've never seen AmigaOS4, but that also means I've never seen it crash... I've seen MorphOS crash a LOT.


But, each to their own.  We'll all see one way or the other after both systems have been released for a few months and the bigger companies choose one way or the other.  After all, no matter how excellent a system is, without apps, there's nothing that can be done with it.

Regards,
YttriumOx
AKA Ben de Waal.

[YttriumOx]

@ -D-
The point exactly - OS4 is not a finished product yet, so that's why it's not available.  If they released it in it's current state, it would be suicide.

I couldn't agree more about OS3.9 being unprofessional.  It was a horrid series of patches and hacks on top of 3.5, which itself was a bunch of patches on top of what should have been 3.2.

But yeh, you've seen MorphOS running well and AOS4 running badly.  I've seen MorphOS running badly and never seen AOS4.  Surely my perspective isn't too hard to understand based on my experience?



Just as a side note - I haven't been keeping up recently - can anyone tell me if Genesi have decided on a date for "MorphOS is fully ready and is no longer a beta system", or is it considered that way already?  I seem to have seen conflicting views of this around...
OS4 we KNOW isn't ready... when it is, I'd like to try and do an unbiased side by side comparison, but that obviously wouldn't be fair if MorphOS isn't considered "release".

Regards,
Ben de Waal
AKA YttriumOx

[YttriumOx]

Oh, and it's offtopic, but I feel I have to comment on this:

-D- wrote:
but not professional in the sense that XP or OSX is

I really don't find XP or OSX to be professional feeling in the slightest.  They're both just "professional looking" frontends thrown over something else in a hackish sort of way (and XP is debatable if it even looks professional)
Both are quite slow for the hardware they're running on and don't handle things in a clean manner.  The print center of OSX for example just feels like a messy and hard to sort out frontend for CUPS (which is not surprising, since that's exactly what it is).  It may be okay for one printer connected to a home machine via USB, but in a large corporate environment where you've got about 30 or 40 printers connected in various ways (such as my workplace), it's quite a headache.
The most "professional" OS I've seen to date would have to be Windows 2000.  Despite the fact that I despise it's memory handling and it's horridly clumsy administration interface, it does reek of professionalism.

Regards,
Ben de Waal
AKA YttriumOx