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http://www.drthrockmorton.com/idoexist.asp (http://www.drthrockmorton.com/idoexist.asp)
Surely they are just bi-sexual? :-?
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Those who tell their story on this film describe profound reorientation of sexual and personal feelings leading to a greater sense of self-awareness and satisfaction.
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No, apparently they do not exist (not in this case)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Those who tell their story on this film describe profound reorientation of sexual and personal feelings leading to a greater sense of self-awareness and satisfaction.
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No, apparently they do not exist (not in this case)
Is it possible to be "formerly straight"?
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mdma wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Those who tell their story on this film describe profound reorientation of sexual and personal feelings leading to a greater sense of self-awareness and satisfaction.
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No, apparently they do not exist (not in this case)
Is it possible to be "formerly straight"?
As I stated, explicitly 'in this case'.
I meant to say, this site doesn't add anything to the truthfullness of whether there are or are not any ppl who changed that way. In other words, this site smells fishy.
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The site mentions Jesus....'nuff said...
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odin wrote:
The site mentions Jesus....'nuff said...
Didn't notice it, but I could smell it miles away.
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So it should be "formerly sane people"? :lol:
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Dan wrote:
So it should be "formerly sane people"? :lol:
:lol:
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No formerly straight, bi or gay people I know of.
One of my mates, who is 25, has just decided to let us know he is gay
but he was always gay. He was just too scared about what we might
think to admit it.
If I woke up tomorrow and thought I fancied sex with a man, that would
probably make me formerly straight, since the very thought of it is
incredibly unpleasant.
Even then, you could argue that I'd just been in denial all this time.
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Wilse wrote:
No formerly straight, bi or gay people I know of.
One of my mates, who is 25, has just decided to let us know he is gay
but he was always gay. He was just too scared about what we might
think to admit it.
If I woke up tomorrow and thought I fancied sex with a man, that would
probably make me formerly straight, since the very thought of it is
incredibly unpleasant.
Even then, you could argue that I'd just been in denial all this time.
My Auntie was married twice, but has been living as a lesbian for the last decade or so.
Denial, bi-sexual, or "conversion"?
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I personally think the terms "gay", "straight" and "bisexual" are inherently narrowminded. It's like saying there's black, white and only one shade of grey. They are a convenient way of referring to someone that sleeps with either sex or both but problems arise when their preferences change and I think people are too quick to assume homosexuality is purely the result of disposition or purely a choice.
I think it's likely that people close to the middle of the heterosexual/homosexual "scale" (if I may) might be affected in such a way that their preference changes. What disturbs me a great deal more is the idea that homosexuals, faced with the difficulties of gaining acceptance in the community might have retreated into denial. I don't know if that's possible; I really hope not.
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NoFastMem wrote:
I personally think the terms "gay", "straight" and "bisexual" are inherently narrowminded. It's like saying there's black, white and only one shade of grey. They are a convenient way of referring to someone that sleeps with either sex or both but problems arise when their preferences change and I think people are too quick to assume homosexuality is purely the result of disposition or purely a choice.
I think it's likely that people close to the middle of the heterosexual/homosexual "scale" (if I may) might be affected in such a way that their preference changes. What disturbs me a great deal more is the idea that homosexuals, faced with the difficulties of gaining acceptance in the community might have retreated into denial. I don't know if that's possible; I really hope not.
I couldn't agree more.
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mdma wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Those who tell their story on this film describe profound reorientation of sexual and personal feelings leading to a greater sense of self-awareness and satisfaction.
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No, apparently they do not exist (not in this case)
Is it possible to be "formerly straight"?
MDMA... is there something you want to tell us, since you stopped smoking? ;-)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
mdma wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Those who tell their story on this film describe profound reorientation of sexual and personal feelings leading to a greater sense of self-awareness and satisfaction.
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No, apparently they do not exist (not in this case)
Is it possible to be "formerly straight"?
MDMA... is there something you want to tell us, since you stopped smoking? ;-)
:roflmao: Not that I know of. :lol:
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NoFastMem wrote:
I personally think the terms "gay", "straight" and "bisexual" are inherently narrowminded. It's like saying there's black, white and only one shade of grey. They are a convenient way of referring to someone that sleeps with either sex or both but problems arise when their preferences change and I think people are too quick to assume homosexuality is purely the result of disposition or purely a choice.
I think it's likely that people close to the middle of the heterosexual/homosexual "scale" (if I may) might be affected in such a way that their preference changes. What disturbs me a great deal more is the idea that homosexuals, faced with the difficulties of gaining acceptance in the community might have retreated into denial. I don't know if that's possible; I really hope not.
There's Black, there's White, and all the Grey's are bisexual. ;-)
There's different shades, sure, but grey = bisexual. :-)
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T_Bone wrote:
There's Black, there's White, and all the Grey's are bisexual. ;-)
There's different shades, sure, but grey = bisexual. :-)
Wouldn't that make almost every person who walks the Earth bisexual? ;-)
I'm talking in terms of attraction. I doubt many people are purely black or white on this matter.
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I'm with T-Bone on this one I think.
Because sex is 'serious business'.
Still, it's a hormoney thingy. Wonder if there are bi's who one day they are attracted to men and the other day to women :-?
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NoFastMem wrote:
T_Bone wrote:
There's Black, there's White, and all the Grey's are bisexual. ;-)
There's different shades, sure, but grey = bisexual. :-)
Wouldn't that make almost every person who walks the Earth bisexual? ;-)
I'm talking in terms of attraction. I doubt many people are purely black or white on this matter.
I don't know about that... a man who looks (a little bit) like a woman might be attactive to a straight guy... but at the end of the day it's a female that he's attracted to.
What you need to say is, what sexual organs do you find attractive... If it's a vulva then you like women. If it's a penis then you like men. If it's both then you are bisexual. I think it is that simple.
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
I'm with T-Bone on this one I think.
Because sex is 'serious business'.
Still, it's a hormoney thingy. Wonder if there are bi's who one day they are attracted to men and the other day to women :-?
That's the point I was trying to make earlier. These "cured" people in that Jesus webpage, might just be bisexual and have just "gone off men" for a while. :-)
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bloodline wrote:
NoFastMem wrote:
T_Bone wrote:
There's Black, there's White, and all the Grey's are bisexual. ;-)
There's different shades, sure, but grey = bisexual. :-)
Wouldn't that make almost every person who walks the Earth bisexual? ;-)
I'm talking in terms of attraction. I doubt many people are purely black or white on this matter.
I don't know about that... a man who looks (a little bit) like a woman might be attactive to a straight guy... but at the end of the day it's a female that he's attracted to.
What you need to say is, what sexual organs do you find attractive... If it's a vulva then you like women. If it's a penis then you like men. If it's both then you are bisexual. I think it is that simple.
Call a spade a spade Matthew. :lol:
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mdma wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
I'm with T-Bone on this one I think.
Because sex is 'serious business'.
Still, it's a hormoney thingy. Wonder if there are bi's who one day they are attracted to men and the other day to women :-?
That's the point I was trying to make earlier. These "cured" people in that Jesus webpage, might just be bisexual and have just "gone off men" for a while. :-)
Well, in the case of that website I just think they're straight liars.
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
mdma wrote:
Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
I'm with T-Bone on this one I think.
Because sex is 'serious business'.
Still, it's a hormoney thingy. Wonder if there are bi's who one day they are attracted to men and the other day to women :-?
That's the point I was trying to make earlier. These "cured" people in that Jesus webpage, might just be bisexual and have just "gone off men" for a while. :-)
Well, in the case of that website I just think they're straight liars.
Who? The people who wrote the website are lying?
Or you think the "cured" people are lying to themselves?
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mdma wrote:
Who? The people who wrote the website are lying?
Or you think the "cured" people are lying to themselves?
They're not lying to themselves, they're just lying like jesuites, maybe those ppl the website mentiones do not exist at all.
some interesting to read (http://isaccorp.org/loveinaction/love-in-action.06.14.05.b.html)
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
mdma wrote:
Who? The people who wrote the website are lying?
Or you think the "cured" people are lying to themselves?
They're not lying to themselves, they're just lying like jesuites, maybe those ppl the website mentiones do not exist at all.
some interesting to read (http://isaccorp.org/loveinaction/love-in-action.06.14.05.b.html)
Have you read all that webpage? It's about a film with real people in it. One of the people was the "star" of gay film It's Elementary (1996) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116659/).
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Thought it was about a weblog :-?
anyhoo, the first wrong thing of your mentioned website is, that it has a goal, and having a goal is a sin in science.
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Thought it was about a weblog :-?
anyhoo, the first wrong thing of your mentioned website is, that it has a goal, and having a goal is a sin in science.
Tsk tsk... one should always read the pages linked to in a thread. :lol:
It wasn't the website that is of primary interest, but the film it talks about.
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Isn't reading linked pages in a discussion like reading a manual? Nobody ever does it? =).