windows = workbench

[motorollin]

_yak_ wrote:
I wouldn't say Workbench is like Win95. Win95 was a huge "patch" that was build on top of MS-DOS.

That's not true. In Win95, DOS is only used to boot the system. Once the Win95 kernel is loaded, this replaces the DOS functions with its own. So Win95 is an OS in its own right, not just an app which runs on top of DOS (like Win3.x).

--
moto

[Tomas]

3246251196 wrote:
pcs boot into windows (there are a lot of variations, but lets use windows). from there you can mess around - transfer data etc

now, amigas boot into workbench (if you can set that from hardrive - never had one)... so, is this workbench the windows equivalent. if its on the hardrive does it boot stragith into WB?

It does boot straight into WB even on a old a500 when using a HD. The boot time for stock amigaos/wb is only a few seconds as well, so it is really fast. I think that Workbench/AmigaOS is superiour to even Windows9x/ME and it still have quite a few advantages over modern Win2k/XP as well. The main thing AmigaOS lacks is decent memory protection, so if a application crashes there it will take down the whole OS in many cases. The new OS4 is way better at that area, but it still is not fully implemented.

[Tomas]

I see Workbench as old Windows. Like Windows 95 and earlier. AmigaDos is running the show and Workbench sits on top of that. In the older versions of Workbench there were some things you had to do from the command prompt.

I dont really agree. AmigaDOS and WB is heavily integrated into eachother and both is basicly the OS. Win9x was more of a half written OS running ontop of another outdated 16bit OS. I dunno if you can even call windows9x for a real OS.

The graphical part of AmigaOS is already loaded when you are in amigados.

[3246251196]

so. do amiga 1200 have 3.1 (or 3.0) ??

[amigagr]

commodore a1200 has 3.0 roms and amiga technology a1200 has 3.1 roms. if you have a 3.0 rom amiga you can change the roms to 3.1. that has meaning to do if you want to install amiga os 3,5 or 3,9.

[3246251196]

grrr. that means i need to obtain a 3.1

(because i have 3.0 will WB 3.1 work?)

[itix]

@Tomas

AmigaDOS is pretty much almost same as AmigaOS (DOS = Disk Operating System) and I think AmigaDOS was the most common name to describe the OS by name in 80s.

[Savan]

@3246251196

You do not need to buy 3.1 chips if your Amiga has an accelerator card what can flashkick a 3.1 rom image.

I did that for years with an Apollo (040) card for 3.5 & 3.9 with zero problems.

[amigagr]

and yes, the workbench3,1 works ok with 3.0 roms, i use this combination for about the first 5 years with my miggy

[3246251196]

This is a fully working amiga a1200 with an 8-10 gig harddrive. I have put workbench 3 on the harddrive but it needs partitioning correctly, boots into workbench fine.

It comes with power supply, mouse, copies of wb3 disks plus some other software / games cannon fodder is one

also both an RF and Scart lead for tv connection (the harddrive prefs are set to tv (pal)), scart gives better picture.

Also workbench 2 manual, much the same as 3, if you have been away from the amiga very usefull

I have also included for free for those who may want to put into base unit or tower or if you are going to fit an accellarator card:

a 2.5" to 3.5" Hard drive adaptor and cable for fitting Hard drives / cd roms ect (you will need a 2.5" male / female cable / adaptor to use, this is un buffered.

a dvd/cd rom

a PS2 keyboard

2 x 16 mb ram 72 pin 60 n/s edo fully working and tested in my amiga

if you want the dvd and keyboard you will have to add £2 on the postage cost

all that is missing are the hard drive lights as i used them in my base unit, but they are selling for 1.50 on ebay, works fine without.

Finaly all this kit was tested and worked fine, but i will not ganrantee any of it due to its age

^^^^

thats what i am getting

[amigagr]

not bad... but how much?

[3246251196]

35£

15£ Deliv

50£

[_yak_]

Oh well, sorry then, seems that I'm not a Windows expert .

[3246251196]

windows = amigaOS

if you have NO AmigaOS then you have no windows - are is this taking it too far. i.e. can a mere Workbench Disk do all that one needs to do IF you dont have AOS

[InTheSand]

The Amiga's windowing environment (called Intuition) is mostly built into the Kickstart ROM chips. If you own a working Amiga with working ROMs, you already have the bulk of the OS.

Technically, you can just use an Amiga with a Workbench disk (up to and including OS3.1) but this can be a slow and painful experience for anything other than the most basic use.

 - Ali

[leirbag28]

@3246251196

Amazing how no one ha answered your questions


Workbench (AmigaOS) is to Amiga What Windows is to PC

Workbench and AmigaOS are exactly the same thing...in the beginning it was called Workbench (sometimes referred to as Intuition) but now is called AmigaOS...........dont listen to what anyone else tells you.....they will confuse you with technical jargon.

Workbench is complete as it is. its a Small Operating Sytem.....thast why its so cool becuase it can run off a floppy disk.............but of course Hard drive installed is way better.

Now to get it up to Par like Windows98 lets say.................there are tons of hacks and upgrades and eyecandy you can download to make it look more modern...........................like cool icons, backgrounds and just totally customize the look. Workbench 3.1 can llok better than Windows98

or you can just go straight to AmigaOS3.9 (Workbench 3.9) which was the Last OS made for Non PowerPC Amigas and it will look somewhat nice right out of the box................but essentially OS3.9 is basically Workbench3.1 with all the hacks I told you that you can download, except already prepackaged. OS3.5 and 3.9 needs the Kickstart ROM 3.1

Kickstart on Amiga = BIOS chip on PC

You can do almost anything Windows98 does on the Amiga with Workbench 3.1

You can:

Use AOL Instant Messenger (AmigAIM)
Yahoo Instant messenger (JabberWocky)
iPOD pod casting (AmiPodder)
IRC     (AmIRC, BlackIRC, Wookichat)
Internet Explorer   (A-Web, iBrowse, Voyager)
Outlook express or JUNO    (YAM, SimpleMail)
PowerPoint      (SCALA MM300, MediaPoint, AmigaVision)
Microsoft Word   (Final Writer, AmigaWriter, Wordworth)
Excel    (Final Data)
WinAMP      (AMPlifier, Amiga AMP)
WinZIP    (WizARC, X-ARC)
Adobe PhotoShop    (Perfect Paint, ImageFX, FX Paint)

And Tons tons more!!!

Amiga and Workbench are still great Today

Get a 68030 50mhz with 32 MB or more if you can..better if you get a 68040 or 68060.
you can get a GFX card too but that changes things a little and things get a little weird from there.