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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Hardware News => Topic started by: JohnFante on February 28, 2014, 11:40:50 AM
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Sorry in advance for this thread :-) Just couldn't help my self
I can see on A-Eon's facebook page that the Cyrrus boards are at revision 2.1. Anybody know/heard a rumor about when we can expect to see a finished board that we can buy?
Btw: This is NOT a thread about how insanely expensive it is gooing to be :-)
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Maybe before the end of the year.
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Sorry about posting this as news. Mods please move this thread to appropriate forum.
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The boards seem to be in the hands of beta testers and the AOS4 code is being developed; the inference (in only my opinion) is that they would be available with the release of OS4.2; looking at the board design, there are more changes than just the CPU; likely this may delay the time frame.
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Issues surrounding development and release are searched for more consistently when spelled correctly: CYRUS
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"I'm not really sure how it goes. But it's sad and it's sweet. And I knew it complete. When I wore a younger man's clothes"
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I just will not hold off for AOS4.2 to get an X5000. What should I get now insted. Any ideas?? thanks guys
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What should I get now insted. Any ideas?? thanks guys
Have you looked at the Sam460ex-CR or the AmigaOne 500... :)
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@JohnFante
I too want the X5000 :hat:
But... #whenitsready
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AmigaOne 500 & Sam460 are they not the same thing?
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Since it has been in the hands of beta testers for a bit, the wait is not infinite; and with reports that the cost of the CPU (not being tied to the ridiculous prices they get away with selling to the US military -- $800 toilet seats) I'm hoping for a more reasonable motherboard price. I am happy with my one core X1000 running OS4.1, yet I'd like to do build on the Cyrus running a dual core OS4.2. "If for no other reason than just to see a five megawatt laser fired, just once!"
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@apsturk
Yes pretty much, the exact Sam460ex model may differ somewhat.
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Since it has been in the hands of beta testers for a bit, the wait is not infinite; and with reports that the cost of the CPU (not being tied to the ridiculous prices they get away with selling to the US military -- $800 toilet seats) I'm hoping for a more reasonable motherboard price. I am happy with my one core X1000 running OS4.1, yet I'd like to do build on the Cyrus running a dual core OS4.2. "If for no other reason than just to see a five megawatt laser fired, just once!"
You must have a custom made X1000 if it only has one core? (just kidding, don't get angry) My PA6T came with 2, though AmigaOS4.1.6 can't use both of them yet.
I applaud you for having the commitment to the platform to consider purchasing a 2nd A-Eon/AmigaKit X-series motherboard to build another AmigaOS4.x system. I have read some good things about the differences being worked on for the X5000 motherboards, that will make it an ever better system than the excellent X1000.
Now if someone could just find (or build) a new PPC laptop at a price that would make sense to port AmigaOS4.x to, we would have all the hardware choices we need for this niche OS. (other than a $200 tablet, so the people who won't join the party until a "Really" cheap AmigaOS4.x system becomes available. I don't blame them for wanting a low cost alternative and entry level system for AmigaOS4.x users. For some users, even the cost of the SAM boards is too much for what they think they are getting, and I won't argue with anyone regarding that point. Each person has different price points where this OS becomes an acceptable entry point, and for some, it is not the right OS no matter what the price of the hardware, which is fine with me too. AmigaOS4.1.6 is not for everyone, and luckily we have so many other choices to get your "Amiga" fix from.)
Laser? That sounds interesting, if you are really considering playing around with a laser connected to your X1000, or X5000 system. Pictures please!
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Have you looked at the Sam460ex-CR
I'm saving my pennys to get this, I had the 440ep and wish I never sold it :(
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Has it been stated what revision of OS4.x the X5000 will ship with?
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Nope
Has it been stated what revision of OS4.x the X5000 will ship with?
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I'm on the fence. got for an X1000 now or wait for an X5000. Ugh.
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I'm on the fence. got for an X1000 now or wait for an X5000. Ugh.
I would personally buy an X1000.
I am a long-time owner.... owned the X1000 First Contact for almost 3 years now.
My guess is the general public will not be able to buy an X5000 until end of 2015 (that is my bet) so unless you want to wait a real long time, I can't see any sense in waiting.
My feeling is the X5000 does not bring a leaps-n-bounds power improvement over the X1000 unless you get the quad core version and even then, until the OS supports it, not a big deal.
I myself still a big fan of the X1000.
TJ
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I have no idea if selling more X1000's helps A-Eon & AmigaKit or not. I am 99.99% sure that A-Eon was making very little on each sale (possibly even zero profit for Trevor), while it was providing a some income to Hyperion for the AmigaOS4.x license and future 4.2 license promised, and of course AmigaKit was making some money for assembling, testing and shipping out each X1000 system to the buyers. I would never talk anyone out of buying an X1000, and I think they are great systems if you are interested in running AmigaOS4.x. The X5000's will be better, but not a huge step up in overall performance, more of an incremental smaller step up from what the X1000 already provides.
It is my understanding (which could be wrong) that because Trevor has decided to continue going forward with the X5000 series of AmigaOne computers, he now will be expecting some portion of the sales price to keep A-Eon going and recoup at least part of the design cost for the X5000's motherboard, which is why the price of the X5000's won't be that much different than the X1000, even though the the price of the CPU is a few hundred dollars less. Of course if I really knew anything, I would be under an NDA and would not be writing any of this, so take anything I write with a grain of salt and make your own decisions based on what you know to be facts, not speculation of anyone else.
I just hope that one of the CPU's A-Eon & Varisys are designing motherboards for is low enough in power usage to create a laptop with and that this is part of what Varisys is doing for A-Eon with the money Trevor has pledged toward the partnership for further development. I have read somewhere that the PA6T was first intended as a replacement for the G4 in Mac PowerBooks and iBooks, so it probably could be used in a laptop design, but I have not looked up any power requirements and heat produced facts regarding the new CPU's that are being used in the Cyrus+ motherboards, so I can only speculate and hope that Trevor and Varisys see the need and have the talent to create a laptop system to run AmigaOS4.x on. That would certainly be a popular product for existing AmigaOS4.x users, and might get us some new users too.
Of course, if Trevor & Varisys were working on a laptop system design, it would be smart for them to keep it secret until it was almost ready for release, given how hostile and over critical this community can be from time to time. Come on Trevor, give us what we really want and design and produce a new PPC laptop (then get all 3 NG Amiga Inspired OSes ported to it, AmigaOS4.x, MorphOS3.x & AROS for PPC, so it will sell in higher numbers, and allow lower production costs due to volume of units being over 1,000, not just 100 units at a time).