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Title: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: the_leander on November 24, 2010, 09:00:15 PM
Use this helpful 3x3 grid to understand where OS4/MOS/AROS zealots are coming from when they comment on any combination of the three different systems.

In row major order, they can be summarised thusly:

AmigaOS4 zealots (aka BAFs) perceive AmigaOS4 to be the one true OS due to it's direct lineage from the sacred 3.1 source. Discussion about alternatives is acceptable only after the fact they are not AmigaOS has been established. Conversely, AROS is perceived as a sinister threat, spawn of those that turned to the dark side (x86) only to spread like an unchecked disease to PPC, ARM and now even 68K! Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the wannabe contender that barges into every discussion about AmigaOS4 hawking their jumped up alternative, but alas the blue short ones do not hold the sacred symbols that belong to the one true OS, no matter how much they'd like to lay claim to the throne.

AROS zealots perceive AmigaOS4 as chained to anachronistic, slow hardware that will forever hold it back as time marches on. Hardware that is, like the equivalent mass in gold, astronomically expensive. They perceive AROS as the logical way forward; sexy, free and unrestricted by any notion of which hardware should be used to run it. Finally, they perceive MorphOS to be fundamentally flawed in a similar vein to AmigaOS4 tied to ageing hardware, though at least this ball and chain is available for rather less outlay overall.

MorphOS zealots (aka Smurfs) perceive AmigaOS4 as a wholly inferior product without any positive aspects at all, tied to obsolete, overpriced hardware. Consequently, they are completely unable to understand why anybody would use it, other than through some blind cultish devotion. They perceive AROS as an immature system, far behind the standard they believe MorphOS to have attained and thus aren't unduly concerned about the fact that it runs on even cheaper and far more powerful hardware than their OS of choice. Nor, it seems that the gulf in functionality that is their mantra is closing every day. Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the pinnacle of the Amiga experience, even if it is only fully appreciable on PPC Mac, to which it brings a second chance at life (thus skirting around the obvious observation that it's equally obsolete as the hardware their crimson adversary favours) after the architecture was unceremoniously dumped by apple in favour of x86.

(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/180/medium/1_trollmatrix_final.jpg) (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/180/1_trollmatrix_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: nicholas on November 24, 2010, 09:05:08 PM
I think the middle image AROS as seen by AROS fans should be:

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_01/InmanPhoneBBC_468x568.jpg)

"I'M FREE!!!" ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: the_leander on November 24, 2010, 09:07:44 PM
Lol, nice, but I think it'd be lost on anyone outside the UK :D
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: TheGoose on November 24, 2010, 09:08:07 PM
Ohhh crackin up!

:lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Tension on November 24, 2010, 09:08:29 PM
And then there are those of us who just want 3.9 to run as-is, but faster.  UAE seems to be the future as far as this cat's concerned.

We look on the whole messy next gen debate as a bit of a farce, although we wish it was not so.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: TheGoose on November 24, 2010, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: the_leander;594134
Lol, nice, but I think it'd be lost on anyone outside the UK :D


Nooo, "R U being served" has been on our sets for years. Not just the Moon.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Templario on November 24, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
Very good picture and with much and unfortunatey true, for every side or gang we see the Amiga as the picture and so things are going bad... but it depend of as you the pic.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Trev on November 24, 2010, 09:15:03 PM
@the_leander

Are You Being Served? is hugely popular in the US. EDIT: It used to be a staple on PBS, our publicly funded (in part) broadcast network, along with Python, Dr. Who, and Fawlty Towers. Later on, Red Dwarf and Absolutely Fabulous made a splash. BBC America is quite successful, and the American version of The Office (not as good as the original, but Ricky Gervais and others from the original cast are well known here, regardless) has been running for years. Also, the community matrix is funny.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 09:16:21 PM
What a shocking piece of trollbait... :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 24, 2010, 09:17:47 PM
Very Good! :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: nicholas;594132
I think the middle image AROS as seen by AROS fans should be:

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_01/InmanPhoneBBC_468x568.jpg)

"I'M FREE!!!" ;)


Wouldn't that give the impression that AROS zealots - the classname for which remains a secret, but given the famous, somewhat provocative Kitty I'm going to call "furries" - regard AROS as highly camp, rather than free?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Tension on November 24, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594142
What a shocking piece of trollbait... :lol:


What's shocking is that nobody has bitten yet!  :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: the_leander on November 24, 2010, 09:18:30 PM
Quote from: Trev;594141
@the_leander

Are You Being Served? is hugely popular in the US....


I stand corrected, at least for the US. I wonder how it does in other locales :)

@Karlos don't taze me bro :D
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 09:26:50 PM
Quote from: the_leander;594147
@Karlos don't taze me bro :D


I'm many things but an outright hypocrite isn't one of them :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: spihunter on November 24, 2010, 09:27:56 PM
Pretty much true! good job!



Quote from: the_leander;594131
Use this helpful 3x3 grid to understand where OS4/MOS/AROS zealots are coming from when they comment on any combination of the three different systems.

In row major order, they can be summarised thusly:

AmigaOS4 zealots (aka BAFs) perceive AmigaOS4 to be the one true OS due to it's direct lineage from the sacred 3.1 source. Discussion about alternatives is acceptable only after the fact they are not AmigaOS has been established. Conversely, AROS is perceived as a sinister threat, spawn of those that turned to the dark side (x86) only to spread like an unchecked disease to PPC, ARM and now even 68K! Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the wannabe contender that barges into every discussion about AmigaOS4 hawking their jumped up alternative, but alas the blue short ones do not hold the sacred symbols that belong to the one true OS, no matter how much they'd like to lay claim to the throne.

AROS zealots perceive AmigaOS4 as chained to anachronistic, slow hardware that will forever hold it back as time marches on. Hardware that is, like the equivalent mass in gold, astronomically expensive. They perceive AROS as the logical way forward; sexy, free and unrestricted by any notion of which hardware should be used to run it. Finally, they perceive MorphOS to be fundamentally flawed in a similar vein to AmigaOS4 tied to ageing hardware, though at least this ball and chain is available for rather less outlay overall.

MorphOS zealots (aka Smurfs) perceive AmigaOS4 as a wholly inferior product without any positive aspects at all, tied to obsolete, overpriced hardware. Consequently, they are completely unable to understand why anybody would use it, other than through some blind cultish devotion. They perceive AROS as an immature system, far behind the standard they believe MorphOS to have attained and thus aren't unduly concerned about the fact that it runs on even cheaper and far more powerful hardware than their OS of choice. Nor, it seems that the gulf in functionality that is their mantra is closing every day. Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the pinnacle of the Amiga experience, even if it is only fully appreciable on PPC Mac, to which it brings a second chance at life (thus skirting around the obvious observation that it's equally obsolete as the hardware their crimson adversary favours) after the architecture was unceremoniously dumped by apple in favour of x86.

(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/180/medium/1_trollmatrix_final.jpg) (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/180/1_trollmatrix_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: the_leander on November 24, 2010, 09:34:05 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594149
I'm many things but an outright hypocrite isn't one of them :lol:


:lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Piru on November 24, 2010, 09:37:35 PM
Hehe ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Belial6 on November 24, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
I don't think anyone is complaining because it is so dead on, and actually shows each point of view.

Next challenge: Expand grid to include classic systems, UAE and Natami.

I was trying to explain to my wife about the different Amiga factions a couple of months ago.  She didn't quite get it.  Your chart will help.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: commodorejohn on November 24, 2010, 10:08:20 PM
What about those of us who stick to 3.1?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: the_leander on November 24, 2010, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;594157
What about those of us who stick to 3.1?


Who do you think created it? ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: lsmart on November 24, 2010, 10:16:08 PM
What is a BAF?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: the_leander on November 24, 2010, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: lsmart;594162
What is a BAF?


Blind Amiga Fanatic.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 10:21:07 PM
Quote from: the_leander;594163
Blind Amiga Fanatic.

A pejorative term that has somewhat lost it's meaning these days (especially in the post Amiga v Hyperion litigation era), but as all of the next-gen-amigaos trolls are perpetually stuck in 2003, to them it's still common currency.

The counterpart "BGF" (Blind Genesi Follower) never really caught on as "smurf" had already made it into the wild :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: adz on November 24, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
Hows that saying go....Hit the nail right on the head...LOL

:lol::roflmao::lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Trev on November 24, 2010, 10:25:04 PM
I like "Born Again Frieden." (The whole mess always confused me, anyway. I use a little bit of everything, just like I own all the major console systems. I'm not sure why people feel the need to choose sides.)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: nicholas on November 24, 2010, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594145
Wouldn't that give the impression that AROS zealots - the classname for which remains a secret, but given the famous, somewhat provocative Kitty I'm going to call "furries" - regard AROS as highly camp, rather than free?


I'm not gonna name names bro! ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: mel_zoom on November 24, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: the_leander;594131
Use this helpful 3x3 grid to understand where OS4/MOS/AROS zealots are coming from when they comment on any combination of the three different systems.


Goodness! I'm glad I stuck with OS 3.1 now :lol:

Quote
Born Again Frieden


Are those acolytes from the Church in the bottom left image then?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: mel_zoom on November 24, 2010, 10:42:37 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594165
The counterpart "BGF" (Blind Genesi Follower) never really caught on as "smurf" had already made it into the wild :)


Smurf? You mean this?
(http://www.mucknomania.ie/mediac/400_0/media/smurf.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 10:47:24 PM
The first time I heard the expression was from a MorphOS user: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4084#5 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4084#5)
Quote from: Kronos

Or get the pure PPC-compiler as that will also come with installer,
and even a special version of GoldED for free.


I know you want it, and you should know it to,there is no way of
escaping the smurf-armada :-P :-D ;-)


Jeez, that thread is ironic in hindsight:
Quote from: me
Is there some unwritten rule that says all C++ coders must be Unix obssesed?


I became the very thing I was complaining about :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: nicholas on November 24, 2010, 10:49:47 PM
Quote from: mel_zoom;594169
Are those acolytes from the Church in the bottom left image then?


I shouldn't think so, those four guys look quite normal compared to the average BAF.

(http://Atheist2)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: amoskodare on November 24, 2010, 11:07:05 PM
Funny a pretty true hehe

But what about the CUSA trolls :P
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: save2600 on November 24, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
Hahaha, that was great. Some good artwork too!

And yeah, 'Are You Being Served'... grew up watching that on Channel 11, WTTW out of Chicago. Best damn Public Television station I've ever seen. Great show too!
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: nicholas on November 24, 2010, 11:09:42 PM
Quote from: save2600;594182
Hahaha, that was great. Some good artwork too!

And yeah, 'Are You Being Served'... grew up watching that on Channel 11, WTTW out of Chicago. Best damn Public Television station I've ever seen. Great show too!


Publicly funded TV in the land of the free?!?!?!? The red terror of socialism?!!?!?!

Won't somebody think of the children? :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 11:26:48 PM
Quote from: nicholas;594176
I shouldn't think so, those four guys look quite normal compared to the average BAF.


Au contraire.

Using a combination of Advanced Image Deconvolution Sizing and Fourier Analysed Interpolative Lens simulation, we can zoom and enhance the image to reveal hitherto unseen detail.
(http://extropia.co.uk/img/cultists.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: AmigaHeretic on November 24, 2010, 11:43:56 PM
Quote from: nicholas;594183
Publicly funded TV in the land of the free?!?!?!? The red terror of socialism?!!?!?!

Won't somebody think of the children? :lol:


Ha ha!  Actually it is very, very much the opposite.  It's "Public" in that people donate to get what "they" want broadcast. Which usually is clean shows for children, sitcoms that are made for people that don't drool on themselves, etc.

Not "Public", as in Red as you suggest, where the government takes your money, then provides you with "Public TV" or something or requires you to pay.

Also, even more away from socialism by the fact that most funding for public TV actually comes from corporate donations.  There are some government agencies that donate (like the National Science Foundation) and funding also comes from viewers that donate money directly.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: nicholas on November 24, 2010, 11:45:13 PM
Quote from: AmigaHeretic;594192
Ha ha!  Actually it is very, very much the opposite.  It's "Public" in that people donate to get what "they" want broadcast. Which usually is clean shows for children, sitcoms that are made for people that don't drool on themselves, etc.

Not "Public", as in Red as you suggest, where the government takes your money, then provides you with "Public TV" or something or requires you to pay.

Also, even more away from socialism by the fact that most funding for public TV actually comes from corporate donations.  There are some government agencies that donate (like the National Science Foundation) and funding also comes from viewers that donate money directly.


Phewww!!! The children are safe! :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 11:50:29 PM
Quote from: Belial6;594156
Next challenge: Expand grid to include classic systems, UAE and Natami.


That's 27 new viewpoints for some poor sod to visualise :roflmao:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Kesa on November 24, 2010, 11:51:53 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594185
Au contraire.

Using a combination of Advanced Image Deconvolution Sizing and Fourier Analysed Interpolative Lens simulation, we can zoom and enhance the image to reveal hitherto unseen detail.
(http://extropia.co.uk/img/cultists.jpg)

That would be 5 if you count your avatar!

P.S. Everyone is a hypocrite   :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 24, 2010, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594145
Wouldn't that give the impression that AROS zealots - the classname for which remains a secret, but given the famous, somewhat provocative Kitty I'm going to call "furries" - regard AROS as highly camp, rather than free?
Oi!!! :pissed: just 'cos I've got a stupid haircut... :p
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 24, 2010, 11:56:45 PM
Quote from: bloodline;594197
Oi!!! :pissed:


Come on, if she was real, you'd do her :roflmao:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 25, 2010, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Karlos;594198
Come on, if she was real, you'd do her :roflmao:
Without a second thought
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Kesa on November 25, 2010, 12:16:07 AM
Lol
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Kesa on November 25, 2010, 12:21:51 AM
Wow! Puurrrrr...

(http://www.gemakei.com/media/albums/userpics/10006/furryForKrystal.jpg)

Furries huh? I could get used to this
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: mechy on November 25, 2010, 12:37:27 AM
Quote from: the_leander;594134
Lol, nice, but I think it'd be lost on anyone outside the UK :D


No, believe it or not "are you being served?" is played in the usa also.. on PBS iirc
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: bloodline;594201
Without a second thought

Using an advanced gene-splice simulation system, I was able to work out that she'd look a bit like this*:

(http://extropia.co.uk/img/kitty.jpg)

*actual results may vary.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 25, 2010, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: Karlos;594215
Using an advanced gene-splice simulation system, I was able to work out that she'd look a bit like this*:

(http://extropia.co.uk/img/kitty.jpg)

*actual results may vary.
Nnnnggg!!! So much awesome! Can't control arm... :crazy:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: AmigaHeretic on November 25, 2010, 01:14:05 AM
OS4 users as the jesters?

(http://static2.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/2/3/3/large2/3328883.jpg)


And for AROS we take these two:

(http://s10.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/C6BB1719.jpg)

(http://rapmodels.net/photos/Uldouz-Wallace-kneeling-on-a-white-bed-showing-off-her-booty-in-red-and-white-checkered-booty-shorts.jpg)


And for those Blue MorphOS guys:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_20FKCWqHsJ0/Sx7jue8_g1I/AAAAAAAAAyI/QADJOJZXF7o/s640/TSMI%255B1%255D.jpg)

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: spihunter on November 25, 2010, 02:39:15 AM
This is the new broccoli thread!. It's even kinda on topic for the site too?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: runequester on November 25, 2010, 04:35:41 AM
What about the "AMIGA IS DEAD" and "amiga is only an A500 with half a meg of RAM" crowds? :)

Quote from: the_leander;594131
Use this helpful 3x3 grid to understand where OS4/MOS/AROS zealots are coming from when they comment on any combination of the three different systems.

In row major order, they can be summarised thusly:

AmigaOS4 zealots (aka BAFs) perceive AmigaOS4 to be the one true OS due to it's direct lineage from the sacred 3.1 source. Discussion about alternatives is acceptable only after the fact they are not AmigaOS has been established. Conversely, AROS is perceived as a sinister threat, spawn of those that turned to the dark side (x86) only to spread like an unchecked disease to PPC, ARM and now even 68K! Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the wannabe contender that barges into every discussion about AmigaOS4 hawking their jumped up alternative, but alas the blue short ones do not hold the sacred symbols that belong to the one true OS, no matter how much they'd like to lay claim to the throne.

AROS zealots perceive AmigaOS4 as chained to anachronistic, slow hardware that will forever hold it back as time marches on. Hardware that is, like the equivalent mass in gold, astronomically expensive. They perceive AROS as the logical way forward; sexy, free and unrestricted by any notion of which hardware should be used to run it. Finally, they perceive MorphOS to be fundamentally flawed in a similar vein to AmigaOS4 tied to ageing hardware, though at least this ball and chain is available for rather less outlay overall.

MorphOS zealots (aka Smurfs) perceive AmigaOS4 as a wholly inferior product without any positive aspects at all, tied to obsolete, overpriced hardware. Consequently, they are completely unable to understand why anybody would use it, other than through some blind cultish devotion. They perceive AROS as an immature system, far behind the standard they believe MorphOS to have attained and thus aren't unduly concerned about the fact that it runs on even cheaper and far more powerful hardware than their OS of choice. Nor, it seems that the gulf in functionality that is their mantra is closing every day. Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the pinnacle of the Amiga experience, even if it is only fully appreciable on PPC Mac, to which it brings a second chance at life (thus skirting around the obvious observation that it's equally obsolete as the hardware their crimson adversary favours) after the architecture was unceremoniously dumped by apple in favour of x86.

(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/180/medium/1_trollmatrix_final.jpg) (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/180/1_trollmatrix_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: smerf on November 25, 2010, 04:56:29 AM
Hi,

@The_Leander,

[MorphOS zealots (aka Smurfs) perceive AmigaOS4 as a wholly inferior product ]


Watch what you say, this smerf, doesn't agree with anything you have said, I don't like any of this new stuff being done.

I for one have found the perfect system, it runs Amiga OS 3.1, 3.5 and 3.9 with ease, it is called:

                C L O A N T O' S  A M I G A  F O R E V E R

 It accepst all the newest latest hardware, plays the old games, runs the old software, and basically has no problems.

Why you jreks haevan't pkiced pu on it, is beyond me. You keep waiting for the perfect system to come out, but you haven't relized it, it is here. All we Amiga users have to do is pick it, praise it, and use it. Accelerators, who needs one when you have a 6 core AMD Phenom 3.2 ghz processor under the hood, and for graphics you have a nvidia 460, or AMD Radeon 5770, sound hold on to your hats, the MSI 890FX has super sound chips. Smooth, precise, and a pleasure to use.

So all you others, crying about this or that, grow up and use what is there, we have to condone and support something and my VOTE is for Amiga Forever by Cloanto.

Who knows we may even get them to drop the WINUAE and come up with a whole self loading Amiga OS that might be used on PC's and (UGH) MAC's.

Then you can fine tune it with AmiKit. What we need to do is start a rag on programming in AF and articles on how to really dazzle it up.

We got it, all we have to do is accept it and use it.

smerf
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Trev on November 25, 2010, 05:07:27 AM
And yet Fallout New Vegas locks up my system regardless of the version of WinUAE I'm running. Wait, what were we talking about?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: trekiej on November 25, 2010, 05:41:48 AM
1. I believe AOS4.0 is the true Amiga, but I can not run it on anything.
2. I like Aros and it seems to be a good way to get things moving.
3. I think MOS is a great os but I can not run it either. I would like to run it.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: smerf on November 25, 2010, 07:09:17 AM
Quote from: Trev;594245
And yet Fallout New Vegas locks up my system regardless of the version of WinUAE I'm running. Wait, what were we talking about?


Hi,

@trev,

Yea, sometimes Fallout New Vegas crashes my system, I downloaded it off steam, so I don't know if I messed up my download or not, then again it could be that darn buggy nvidia 8600 card I bought. They won't really admit it but Microsoft says that the 8 series of nvidia cards had a bug in it that crashed Vista, and now if your using it crashes 7 once in a while with the right calls on the nvid card, but then again I am jabbering on because come to think of it my Intel computer is using a 5750 radeon card, and Vegas crashes that out.

Oh well, I am so confused.

smerf
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Damion on November 25, 2010, 07:50:35 AM
Very well done! Funniest thing I've read here in ages! :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: cicero790 on November 25, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
@The_Leander

Perfect dogmatic analysis. :-)



EDIT: The suggestion was given earlier in thread. Ah Well..
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 25, 2010, 10:12:39 AM
The comedy comes from it's simplicity, it does not need to be extended :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: the_leander on November 25, 2010, 10:22:20 AM
Quote from: bloodline;594267
The comedy comes from it's simplicity, it does not need to be extended :)


Quite so.

I should note (again - I've said this in the gallery page). I didn't create this. I am simply the front guy for this. Those who created it and shaped it know who they are :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: Kesa;594196
That would be 5 if you count your avatar!


Special Agent Gumby is sporting a handkerchief, not a boing-ball tupi.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: bloodline;594267
The comedy comes from it's simplicity, it does not need to be extended :)


Especially when you consider that it would end up in a sparse matrix in which the default cell contents would be something like this (at least for classic/natami/etc user's views of all NG systems):

(http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/additional/large/8753_meh_together.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: cicero790 on November 25, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
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Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: dentunes on November 25, 2010, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: the_leander;594147
I stand corrected, at least for the US. I wonder how it does in other locales :)

@Karlos don't taze me bro :D
Also played considerably in Australia as well.

References in the 90's to "Are you being Serbed" were popular.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Franko on November 25, 2010, 03:17:55 PM
Hmmm... don't get it... :confused:

All those OS4, AROS & MorphOS junkies are quick enough to jump down your throat when you post something that even merely hint's a wee bit about saying something is wrong with their chosen OS and yet here they same numpties seem quite happy to join in ridiculing themselves... :confused:

Guess that just goes to show they don't even know what their single little brain cell is actual thinking at any given point in time... :lol:

Just remember this the next time I tell you what I really think about the above mentioned OS systems... :)

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED... ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: Franko;594308
All those OS4, AROS & MorphOS junkies are quick enough to jump down your throat when you post something that even merely hint's a wee bit about saying something is wrong with their chosen OS and yet here they same numpties seem quite happy to join in ridiculing themselves... :confused:


Erm, who would you say in this thread is one of those "same numpties" ?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 25, 2010, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594312
Erm, who would you say in this thread is one of those "same numpties" ?
I'm definitely an AROS numptie... I've been a flag waver for over 10years now, wow I'm
Old :(
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 03:39:50 PM
Quote from: bloodline;594313
I'm definitely an AROS numptie... I've been a flag waver for over 10years now, wow I'm
Old :(


:lol:

We're all getting old, mate. All of us.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Franko on November 25, 2010, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594312
Erm, who would you say in this thread is one of those "same numpties" ?


You fur a start ya big numptie ye... :lol:

You were quite recently telling me off in a thread not to be so harsh on OS4.0, well how come then OS4.0 received not one single solitary vote in the recent poll... (don't know what this has to do with anything, but I just thought I'd throw it in... :) )

see ah wiz richt n ye wur wrang... nuff said... :p

(PS:frae noo oan ah'm only gonnae wricht in scoattish soiz naybudy wull understaun whit ah'm reelly sayun, ren a'h kin say whitever ah want tae n naybudy kin cumplain... so rer... ;))
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Franko;594316
You fur a start ya big numptie ye... :lol:

You were quite recently telling me off in a thread not to be so harsh on OS4.0, well how come then OS4.0 received not one single solitary vote in the recent poll... (don't know what this has to do with anything, but I just thought I'd throw it in... :) )

I didn't tell you off, I simply called you out on the claim it chronically slow. Something along the lines of "using a chip-ram only A1200" you suggested... ;)

Quote
noo oan ah'm only gonnae wricht in scoattish soiz naybudy wull understaun whit ah'm reelly sayun, ren a'h kin say whitever ah want tae n naybudy kin cumplain... so rer

Consider your heinous plan thwarted. It's really not that hard to read.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Argo on November 25, 2010, 04:12:31 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;594157
What about those of us who stick to 3.1?


Your sad devotion to that ancient version has not conjured up the schematics for better hardware to run it on!
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Franko on November 25, 2010, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594317
I didn't tell you off, I simply called you out on the claim it chronically slow. Something along the lines of "using a chip-ram only A1200" you suggested... ;)


ach bit kin ye noh see ah mustv bin richt cos naebody voted fur it did ray... :)

(still say it's slower than an arthritic tortoise with no legs... :lol:)

Quote
Consider your heinous plan thwarted. It's really not that hard to read.


Drat... Foiled again... :(

Ah, but how come when I have to make a phone call to south of the border do I always end up having to use the phonetic alphabet just be able to be understood... :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 25, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: Franko;594316
You fur a start ya big numptie ye... :lol:

see ah wiz richt n ye wur wrang... nuff said... :p

(PS:frae noo oan ah'm only gonnae wricht in scoattish soiz naybudy wull understaun whit ah'm reelly sayun, ren a'h kin say whitever ah want tae n naybudy kin cumplain... so rer... ;))


I see Scottish education is improving!
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Franko;594321
ach bit kin ye noh see ah mustv bin richt cos naebody voted fur it did ray... :)


Well, frankly you picked the wrong site to estimate OS4 usage. There was an exodus years ago when for a brief period when the site was perceived by the red camp to be under undue influence of the blue camp.

Even then, a surprising number of votes for 4.1...
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Franko on November 25, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594324
Well, frankly you picked the wrong site to estimate OS4 usage. There was an exodus years ago when for a brief period when the site was perceived by the red camp to be under undue influence of the blue camp.

Even then, a surprising number of votes for 4.1...


I think your talking about Amigaworld.net, I had noticed on that site that it's mainly OS4.x users and deliberately spilt between OS4 and Classic. Quite divisive I think.

I too was surprised at the number of votes OS4.1 got... :)

@ bloodline

Quote
I see Scottish education is improving!


Whit's an edukayshun (and is it alcoholic)... ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: nicholas on November 25, 2010, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594317
I didn't tell you off, I simply called you out on the claim it chronically slow. Something along the lines of "using a chip-ram only A1200" you suggested... ;)



Consider your heinous plan thwarted. It's really not that hard to read.


Is there much difference between Scotis and Geordie? ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 25, 2010, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: nicholas;594328
Is there much difference between Scotis and Geordie? ;)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... North is north!
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on November 25, 2010, 10:27:30 PM
Quote from: bloodline;594329
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... North is north!


Typical southerner :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: bloodline on November 25, 2010, 10:31:12 PM
Quote from: Karlos;594366
Typical southerner :lol:

A curious gaff I made some years ago talking to a Scotsman, I said imagine if James the first had centralised the seat of power of the union in Edinburgh... Then RP would probably sound scotish and it is the southerners who would sound like morons... Um... :blush:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: commodorejohn on November 25, 2010, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: Argo;594320
Your sad devotion to that ancient version has not conjured up the schematics for better hardware to run it on!
Hey, us righteous live by faith! (In NatAmi, to be precise. Or ColdFire if you're really a MHz-luster.)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Belial6 on December 01, 2010, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: Argo;594320
Your sad devotion to that ancient version has not conjured up the schematics for better hardware to run it on!


I beg to differ...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fminimig.googlecode.com%2Ffiles%2Fminimig11_schematics.pdf&rct=j&q=minimig%20schematics&ei=r8X2TMukAYTmsQPT4-SlCw&usg=AFQjCNFgAB36yWgvys3QfFncS8loi1jF0g&sig2=g5mo7RTxWD9qjMXKW4kyDQ&cad=rja

http://www.fpgaarcade.com/common/fpgaarcade_revb_layout.gif
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on December 07, 2010, 10:46:55 PM
I just saw something similar to this for mobile phone users:

(http://images.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/iPhone-BlackBerry-Android-csection-660x933.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Franko on December 07, 2010, 10:53:31 PM
@ Karlos

What about all of us who have never owned or even used a mobile... how are we seen ???
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on December 07, 2010, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: Franko;597690
@ Karlos

What about all of us who have never owned or even used a mobile... how are we seen ???


(http://stickerheroes.com/files/captain_caveman.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Franko on December 07, 2010, 10:58:36 PM
Wow... We've moved up in folks opinions then... :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: adz on December 07, 2010, 11:08:18 PM
Saw the phone comparison chart thingy a week or so back, certainly made me chukle :roflmao:

Wonder where Nokia users fit in :lol:

TBH, I'm so over mobile phones, if it weren't an integral part of my busniess I wouldn't even own one.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: adz on December 07, 2010, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: Franko;597693
Wow... We've moved up in folks opinions then... :)


Shouldn't he be holding bagpipes instead ;)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on December 07, 2010, 11:12:57 PM
Quote from: adz;597695
Saw the phone comparison chart thingy a week or so back, certainly made me chukle :roflmao:

Wonder where Nokia users fit in :lol:

TBH, I'm so over mobile phones, if it weren't an integral part of my busniess I wouldn't even own one.


I've never actually been "into" them in the way some folks are. To me, it's just a device for making calls. The first one I got was so the folks could keep in touch more easily with me when I was at university.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on December 07, 2010, 11:13:20 PM
Quote from: adz;597696
Shouldn't he be holding bagpipes instead ;)


Captain Kiltman?
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: adz on December 07, 2010, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: Karlos;597698
I've never actually been "into" them in the way some folks are. To me, it's just a device for making calls. The first one I got was so the folks could keep in touch more easily with me when I was at university.


Nah, never really "into" them myself, was a bit a gimmick when I was 16 as that's when they started appearing, but now it's just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: adz on December 07, 2010, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Karlos;597699
Captain Kiltman?


/me fires up MSPaint :lol:
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: persia on December 07, 2010, 11:37:28 PM
THe OP was actually thinking of Public Education...

Can't get much redder than that.  Government takes your money puts kids in schools based on their ages rather than abilities and teaches them that there are only certain answers to questions...

Quote from: AmigaHeretic;594192
Ha ha!  Actually it is very, very much the opposite.  It's "Public" in that people donate to get what "they" want broadcast. Which usually is clean shows for children, sitcoms that are made for people that don't drool on themselves, etc.

Not "Public", as in Red as you suggest, where the government takes your money, then provides you with "Public TV" or something or requires you to pay.

Also, even more away from socialism by the fact that most funding for public TV actually comes from corporate donations.  There are some government agencies that donate (like the National Science Foundation) and funding also comes from viewers that donate money directly.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: glitch on December 07, 2010, 11:40:28 PM
Too funny.  Actually Are you Being Served? was a big hit over here in Canada too!
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: persia on December 07, 2010, 11:41:31 PM
Making calls is only a minor bit of their function, mostly it's an internet device that provides ready access to the internet, it has tools that work in a pinch, such as a torch, a radio and a calculator.  

But yeah, they also make calls...

Quote from: Karlos;597698
I've never actually been "into" them in the way some folks are. To me, it's just a device for making calls. The first one I got was so the folks could keep in touch more easily with me when I was at university.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on December 07, 2010, 11:50:55 PM
Quote from: persia;597705
Making calls is only a minor bit of their function, mostly it's an internet device that provides ready access to the internet, it has tools that work in a pinch, such as a torch, a radio and a calculator.  


Yours might be. Mine's a phone that is portable. It has some basic internet accessibility, a media player and a camera, all secondary (though I do frequently use it for listening to music when out and about).
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: orb85750 on December 08, 2010, 12:24:35 AM
And new-to-community-user asks, "What the Hell is all this AROS, MorphOS, BAF stuff?  I'm just trying to figure out why this Amiga 1200 I picked up won't work with any of my computer monitors."
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: runequester on December 08, 2010, 03:04:32 AM
I hate talking on the phone, but its handy for IM'ing on the go, keeping track of my email and whatnot.
 
Also works wonders for coordinating if my wife is giving me a ride from work or not.
 
I'll give up phone calls a lot sooner than I'll give up amiga's :)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: desiv on December 08, 2010, 03:37:17 AM
Quote from: Trev;594141
Are You Being Served? is hugely popular in the US. EDIT: It used to be a staple on PBS, our publicly funded (in part) broadcast network

Wait, did you just use "hugely popular" and "PBS" in the same sentence?
:confused::confused::confused:

:-)

desiv
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Franko on December 08, 2010, 04:12:38 AM
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/MobliePhoneJoke01-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on December 08, 2010, 08:37:25 PM
@Franko

Kinda downplays your country's historical contribution to telephony, doesn't it?

Poor old Alexander Graham Bell must be turning in his grave ;)
Title: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: tone007 on December 08, 2010, 10:10:30 PM
Quote from: the_leander;594131
AmigaOS4 zealots (aka BAFs)

AROS zealots

MorphOS zealots (aka Smurfs)


I notice there's no cute nickname listed for the AROS zealots.

Might I suggest AROSholes?

(no offense to anyone, seriously, I just couldn't go without posting that.)

The chart was awesome.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Karlos on December 08, 2010, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: tone007;597813
I notice there's no cute nickname listed for the AROS zealots.


Furries? :D
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: tone007 on December 08, 2010, 10:19:42 PM
Quote from: Karlos;597815
Furries? :D


I think you've got me beat.
Title: Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
Post by: Fats on December 08, 2010, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: tone007;597813
I notice there's no cute nickname listed for the AROS zealots.

Might I suggest AROSholes?
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Black Wizards ?
Staf.