Amiga.org
The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: MarkTime on April 23, 2003, 07:05:09 PM
-
OK, I ran across alexa.com which is a site that publishes rankings for web sites.
The web site traffic rankings are based on users who use the Alexa toolbar. This is somewhat problematic for Amiga sites, as the Alexa toolbar is only available for windows and with Internet explorer.
While sampling is perfectly fine, the sampling may not be correct across an international community if alexa adoption is skewed by region.
So, with all those obvious problems aside, WHO RUNS THE MOST POPULAR AMIGA WEBSITE.
WELL AMIGA.ORG of course!!!! Woo hoo, amiga.org rocks.
So without further ado.....Alexa's rankings, 3 month traffic report (lower number is better):
Amiga.org 157,762
Amiga.com 180,643
AmigaWorld.NET 370,017
Amiga-news.de 1,078,075
ANN.LU over 3,641,889
Obviously, the european sites are getting killed by a lower adoption rate for Alexa toolbar or IE...or a higher retention rate for native amiga browsers???
In any event, I cannot imagine ann.lu really doing so poorly....
interesting though...
now....I would list some morphos sites, but I couldn't find any that had any ranking at all :-(
now just for kicks:
microsoft.com : 8
apple.com: 175
atari.com: 114, 647
remember atari.com is now a website for the atari games division of hasbro, or some game company.....
-
more numbers:
the company I work for now: 93,775
the company my brother founded: 31,886
my former employer's static site: about 139k...
lol, well this could go on forever: uhmmm
macworld.com 8,692
but a personal fave of mine, xlr8yourmac.com is only:
102,611
ok I'll stop.....
-
Atari beats amiga? :-(
ARGH :-x :-P
-
this reminds me of the broadband tester that said to me i had a t3 connection......
i dont think theese numbers are very good....
something is very wrong , atleast if u count the hits everyday...
-
The web site traffic rankings are based on users who use the Alexa toolbar
I can understand Google-toolbar .. but Alexa-toolbar? huh .. what are people thinking.
-
speaking only about the sites, where I know what the hits are....the finding seem very on target.
still there would be some skew, and maybe more so in the amiga world and its special tendencies.
still I'm not surprised to see the morphOS sites not registering even a blip, and amigazone not registering a blip....
and czech amiga news, being ranked close to amiga-news.de....the big surprise to me, is ann.lu...but while I think alexa is off a bit on that one, I have also revised my overall estimate of thats site traffic downwards...I don't think alexa is completely wrong, based on its other accurate predictions.
The other thing is, its good to be ranked high on search engines...as amiga.org and amiga.com are.....and its good to have spikes of high activity to help your average...as amiga.com, amiga.org, and amigaworld.net clearly do.......
I think its non scientific and clearly not exact, and maybe some real problems with some of the numbers, but....still I don't think its completely off and probably the best guess I've seen yet...anyone else have better numbers? I think it would be an interesting post if you do....
thanks
-
a LAWD
ok, I can't help but tell on myself.
I was at alexa site again...and it is a amazon.com company, powered by google...
but anyway, customers who visited amiga.com also visited these other sites:
snofalls.com
What??? turns out its a credit union in Snoqualmie Washington....they must have the alexa toolbar installed over at Amiga, Inc.
lmao
-
What??? turns out its a credit union in Snoqualmie Washington....they must have the alexa toolbar installed over at Amiga, Inc.
I can just see it.
"My name is Bill, this is my friend Fleecy, can you lend us some fifty bucks to buy some t-shirts for our customers?"
-
"I can just see it. "My name is Bill, this is my friend Fleecy, can you lend us some fifty bucks to buy some t-shirts for our customers?""
For some reason that had me rotfl.
Thanks
-
Why even bother using stuff like Alexa and other nonsence toolbars when IE can be set up to use any search engine on its own.
-
Why bother to use Aaaaaiiiieeeee! at all? Opera and Nutscrape both have integrated search bars?
-
Atari is owned by Infogrames.
Maybe hasbro's got them. naah, that would never happen.
Infogrames made North and South, and they are french :-D
-
Atari beats amiga?
maybe it's because they released UT2003 and Unreal 2?
A inc has still to release something larger than a game pack :-D :-D :-D
-
Livin' next door to her, who the ****** is Alexa? :-)
-
ahh infograemes, I remember that now...couldn't be bothered to actually load the site, wouldn't want to help their stats you know....
though I don't have Alexa.....or have any idea why
someone would use its toolbar over other ones...
Alexas is the number one source around the world
for independent stats about web site traffic.
They are the largest provider of this kind of service...
though they admit to possible skewing by region
and windows only status of their tools....
still noone else is doing it better....Alexa was founded
by the same people who did amazon.com, and they
have over 200 terabytes of info in their archive...
which btw, they donate all of this to the internet archive for preserving the everychanging internet, in its historical context.
Heck, maybe even these words will be saved.
And someday discovered a hundred million years
from now by an historian.
WOW, good thing I am wearing clean underwear.
-
@Warface
Alexa is a spyware/adware component that gets installed on most peoples system without them ever even knowing where it came from (like most spyware) It always gets installed with Gator (more crap spyware) and maybe with other things too.
Download Ad-aware 6.0 (http://www.lavasoftusa.com) and run on your PC (if you have one) and you'll be amazed at how much junk is running from your registry and startup. I've seen it go as high as 700+ components on some peoples systems.
-
and ppl get spoofed with the 'hidden extension' trick too :-D :-D :-D . the miggy can be a bliss.
-
Well, some numbers that may be of interest; the number of pages that link to a site, according to Google:
www.amiga.com 2430
www.aminet.net 2060
www.amiga.org 1310
www.amigaworld.net 552
www.ann.lu 510
www.amiga-news.de 444
www.morphos-news.de 220
amiga.czex.com 212
www.amigart.com 208
www.morphzone.org 72
www.phinixi.com 46
www.flyingmice.com/squid/moobunny/amiga 20
And outside Amiga circles:
www.google.com 252000
www.microsoft.com 136000
www.apple.com 88100
www.slashdot.org 39700
www.redhat.com 32200
www.osnews.com 4910
www.bebits.com 4050
www.atari.com 2390
www.atari.org 844
www.c64.org 402
Of course, there are several problems with these numbers: the time the website has been online has an effect, and also some searches brought up links from the site in question itself. And of course, the number of links is only indirectly related to the number of visitors. But I suppose the numbers still tell something.
-
Just to put the record straight... Hasbro USED to own the Atari trademark (after Atari of course), under whom's title they released some second rate clones of classic 70's and 80's arcade games before eventually selling the trademark to Infogrames.
-
thought there was something about hasbro in this regard.
anyways, they only use it for the name. UT and Unreal isn't even made by infogrames, but Digital Entertainment.
... guess everyone wants a cut...
-
WHOLLY CRAP!! I just did a link search on www.AmigaSource.com (http://amiga.org/modules/mylinks/visit.php?lid=230) (38 links by the way) and the third link listed was none other than the former Amiga Web Directory (http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html). I'm listed under their LINKS section. I had no idea...
HOW IRONIC!!
They are the whole reason I do what I do after they pulled the plug on the Amiga community.
** Me thinks I can hear Alanis Morissette in the background **
-
Rofl! that's funny as hell!
-
You can say that again. I'm still shaking my head...
www.AmigaSource.com (http://amiga.org/modules/mylinks/visit.php?lid=230) - Just like Amiga Web Directory - Only better. I'm still around! :-)
-
I took a look at amigasource the other day, good to see a new link directory...
all I'm going to say about cucug's AWD, is that I'll remember it fondly...
good to see a new link directory, I remember fondly seeing new links added everyday, and how exciting it was to see the visible proof of constant activity in this very much 'alive' community.
which reminds me...
Remember all the 'amiga is dead' worries....it was a constant theme a few years ago....many many a post was an 'amiga is dead' post as members left the community, always tryign to take as many with them as they could.
It's wonderful to see the community on a growth phase (almost) again....even without the actual growth, very few people proclaiming the platform 'dead' anymore....that is quite pleasant.
-
@AmigaSource
Arggh, Alanis Morisette! Who needs chinese water torture when you have a chanteuse like her! I shut a cat's tail in the door the other day, and that was more soothing to the ear!
-
You fool Alexa is the worst bit of spyware you can install, all these toolbars collect and send data to other companies .i use operas built in search toolbar. :-?
-
UGH, if they didn't send data, there would be no statistics.
Alexa is about the only publicly available source for determining the relative popularity of websites...precisely because it does send the data back.
sure, ok, as an individual user, some people may not wish to use it, but as someone observing the popularity of websites, its a useful tool, and important to put things in the historical context, if one is to preserve information about the internet as it once existed. Certainly most websites will not provide this information, and even if they would, trying to collect it in some kind of voluntary manner is impossible just from a logistics perspective....
Alexa is useful for web site traffic stats at a very high level, useful for internet historians...whether it is useful from the perspective of the individual user...well, that goes back to the toolbar itself..clearly some like it, some don't.
I don't suggest anyone purposely try to fool the stats by installing Alexa and visiting their fav' websites....
-
@ Cyberus
ROTFL. I agree. This was in reference to her song "Ironic" Don't cha think?
-
I can't se how Atari can ebat amiga.
Atari only release games.
The name have been bought, (a qualified guess) just to have an old and know name.
Could be the future for amiga.. maybe... I don't hope though.
Amiga should do what they have always done.. OS and HW :-)
Not some silly gamepack, which nobody wants anyway
-
@AmigaSource
Yeah I know,
that's gotta be one of her most irritating songs!
And the ironic thing is, what she sings about in that song isn't ironic at all! :-D
-
Yeah Atari is just now a name and cool logo to put on game boxes. At my old company we wrote Frogger 2 for Hasbro and it was released under the Atari brand. Then Infogrames bought Hasbro's games division last year, including the Atari name and the various Atari IP such as Centipede, Frogger, Missile command etc. Infogrames seems to buy everyone (remember Ocean, Gremlin, Shiny Entertainment?)
-
This weeks numbers (lower number is better):
Amiga.org: 149,901
Amiga.com: 196,383
The gap widens....
no other amiga site was even in the top 300,000...