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Offline kolla

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #224 from previous page: March 23, 2018, 02:39:17 PM »
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Then the heirs of the rightholders are the new rightholders.


That is not automatic, people also die without having heirs, and copyright still last 70 years.

Stupid law? Sure, but that's what it is.

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It doesn't change anything: prosecution of copyright infringements is entirely up to the rightholder and not to anybody else. If nothing happens, it seems it doesn't matter to whom it might concern. In any case it's none of your business.


I make it my business, since you ("the team") have been so super nice with me and others. I am sure you want me to shut up, but as long as the Apollo Team keep up with arrogance and BS, I will not shut up about it.
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #225 on: March 23, 2018, 02:47:34 PM »
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That is not automatic, people also die without having heirs, and copyright still last 70 years.

Stupid law? Sure, but that's what it is.



I make it my business, since you ("the team") have been so super nice with me and others. I am sure you want me to shut up, but as long as the Apollo Team keep up with arrogance and BS, I will not shut up about it.


Must be hard being the victim of an imaginary situation.
 

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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #226 on: March 23, 2018, 02:51:42 PM »
Shall i resurrect commodoreamiga.ir and host CoffinOS there?

Good look trying to shut it down with western laws. ;)
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #227 on: March 23, 2018, 03:12:01 PM »
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That is not automatic, people also die without having heirs, and copyright still last 70 years.

Nonsense. If there are no heirs, the state inherits.  
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I make it my business, since you ("the Team") have been so super nice with me and others. I am sure you want me to shut up, but as long as the Apollo Team keep up with arrogance and BS, I will not shut up about it.

That's probably why it says "Desperately needs a life" next to your avatar.
 

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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #228 on: March 23, 2018, 03:18:05 PM »
Right, just to bring this back to a useful point: Pretty please, with a cherry on top, produce an A1200 version.
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #229 on: March 23, 2018, 03:35:21 PM »
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Right, just to bring this back to a useful point: Pretty please, with a cherry on top, produce an A1200 version.


And an A3000 version with go faster stripes and furry dice please.
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #230 on: March 23, 2018, 03:36:27 PM »
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I am sure you want me to shut up, but as long as the Apollo Team keep up with arrogance and BS, Iwill not shut up about it.


No, please don’t stop, this is so funny that it enlighten my lunch pause! If you stop it I will be bored. Are you free Wednesday night for a lunch ?

You have so many vital questions to ask about the vampire, so many questions that make sense. Moreover, it makes sense, when we go to buy a computer, we ask all these questions.

I imagine the dialogue between you and the salesman when you buy a pc at the store: "the CE compliment test is done right? The license is paid? The rights holders have been contacted? How much earn the people who made the product? They are declared? They paid their taxes? Is the packaging gluten free?
 

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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #231 on: March 23, 2018, 04:36:11 PM »
Wow, this keeps getting better and better :D

"The Internetz hurt my feelings so it sparked a vendetta of stalking, trolling, and shilling."

Isn't that against some forum rules? Since we like rules so much...
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #232 on: March 23, 2018, 05:11:44 PM »
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No, please don’t stop, this is so funny that it enlighten my lunch pause! If you stop it I will be bored. Are you free Wednesday night for a lunch ?

You have so many vital questions to ask about the vampire, so many questions that make sense. Moreover, it makes sense, when we go to buy a computer, we ask all these questions.

I imagine the dialogue between you and the salesman when you buy a pc at the store: "the CE compliment test is done right? The license is paid? The rights holders have been contacted? How much earn the people who made the product? They are declared? They paid their taxes? Is the packaging gluten free?


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #233 on: March 23, 2018, 05:34:38 PM »
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Must be hard being the victim of an imaginary situation.


Nope, not hard at all. Entertaining rather.
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #234 on: March 23, 2018, 06:12:47 PM »
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I imagine the dialogue between you and the salesman when you buy a pc at the store: "the CE compliment test is done right? The license is paid? The rights holders have been contacted? How much earn the people who made the product? They are declared? They paid their taxes? Is the packaging gluten free?

Sounds like you have not bought electronic items in a very long time, or maybe you have dubious sources? Have you not noticed the pile of papers that come with just about anything you buy? Look at them, there is typically at least one sheet solely about safety and regulation conformity, and links to the support sites of the manufacturer where you can read in detail about exactly what conformity regulations the product is supposed to adhere to.

But my original question here, which somehow got lost... what entity has the responsibility for the CE compliance? Is it Majsta personally? Is it "the team"? What about V600 boards made by Kipper? With other hardware, there is rarely any doubt about who is the seller and who is the manufacturer, but in this case, with various "team" constellations and "volunteers" here and there doing the manufacturing, there is plenty to be doubtful about.

As for what I have bought myself - yes, I have returned products because they, after a little testing, turned out to not adhere to the regulations the product was marked with. Most times, the reseller were only happy to remove and recall the products, but in a handful cases I reported to Forbrukerombudet (The Consumer Ombudsman), who then did the follow-up and every now and then kept me informed.
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Offline kolla

Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #235 on: March 23, 2018, 06:16:53 PM »
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If there are no heirs, the state inherits.


Exactly, and the copyright stays intact.

You are not the state.
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #236 on: March 23, 2018, 06:25:57 PM »
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Pretty please, with a cherry on top, produce an A1200 version.

Yes - I agree, bring it on! More cards! More users! More violations! More poop to hit fans! :)
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #237 on: March 23, 2018, 06:36:53 PM »
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Shall i resurrect commodoreamiga.ir and host CoffinOS there?

Good look trying to shut it down with western laws. ;)


That's hardly relevant. The point here is that "CoffinOS" is an unlicensed assembly of operating system and software, officially endorsed and officially supported (and it turns out, even assembled) by the same people who sell the product it was made for. What media that is used for distribution is not relevant.
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #238 on: March 23, 2018, 06:47:10 PM »
Jesus, we have a good one here, maybe even a world class champion....
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Re: Gold 2.7 release for the Vampire accelerators
« Reply #239 on: March 23, 2018, 06:47:58 PM »
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Sounds like you have not bought electronic items in a very long time, or maybe you have dubious sources? Have you not noticed the pile of papers that come with just about anything you buy? Look at them, there is typically at least one sheet solely about safety and regulation conformity, and links to the support sites of the manufacturer where you can read in detail about exactly what conformity regulations the product is supposed to adhere to.

But my original question here, which somehow got lost... what entity has the responsibility for the CE compliance? Is it Majsta personally? Is it "the team"? What about V600 boards made by Kipper? With other hardware, there is rarely any doubt about who is the seller and who is the manufacturer, but in this case, with various "team" constellations and "volunteers" here and there doing the manufacturing, there is plenty to be doubtful about.

As for what I have bought myself - yes, I have returned products because they, after a little testing, turned out to not adhere to the regulations the product was marked with. Most times, the reseller were only happy to remove and recall the products, but in a handful cases I reported to Forbrukerombudet (The Consumer Ombudsman), who then did the follow-up and every now and then kept me informed.


Most of the Amiga hw is at hobby or just above level... We should be happy there is anything available at all. You cant expect Majsta to compete with any big manufacturer and have the resources for all the regulations, he has done more that any other single person could do to deliver a quality product. All the "rules" and regulations are making the mankind retards we are today.

"Only" a handful of reports, you should step up your game :)
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