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Operating System Specific Discussions => MorphOS => MorphOS -- Application questions and support => Topic started by: runequester on February 02, 2011, 09:28:05 PM
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Hopefully one of the people involved frequents here, as I aren't keen on signing up for another forum just yet.
1: I've seen mentioned that if the machine croaks, the license can be transferred. What exactly is involved in this process?
2: Any provisions for transferring a license to a newer machine?
F.x. I buy a G4 powermac, and later get a mac mini
3: Any other benefits of registering other than losing the 30 minute slow down limit?
4: How sensitive is the license to swapping equipment? F.X. RAM or video cards
Thanks in advance!
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Hopefully one of the people involved frequents here, as I aren't keen on signing up for another forum just yet.
1: I've seen mentioned that if the machine croaks, the license can be transferred. What exactly is involved in this process?
2: Any provisions for transferring a license to a newer machine?
F.x. I buy a G4 powermac, and later get a mac mini
3: Any other benefits of registering other than losing the 30 minute slow down limit?
4: How sensitive is the license to swapping equipment? F.X. RAM or video cards
Thanks in advance!
1*- provide valid evidence that the maschine got broken, then you get a new license.
2 - w/o breaking the maschine a license transfer is not an option, hence no fees for that. If the maschie got broken I guess the new license will be issued for free. Dunno if it happend yet. For "license transfer" best is to sell the maschine with the license off and take the money. Depending on market demand this can be a better or a worse trade. But it is the most feasible.
3 - no. demo is 100% identical to reg'd version.
4 - not sensitive at all. The license key is bound to the mainboard MAC adress, swapping cpu mudul, RAM, gfx et al. doesn't matter at all.
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Hopefully one of the people involved frequents here, as I aren't keen on signing up for another forum just yet.
1: I've seen mentioned that if the machine croaks, the license can be transferred. What exactly is involved in this process?
2: Any provisions for transferring a license to a newer machine?
F.x. I buy a G4 powermac, and later get a mac mini
3: Any other benefits of registering other than losing the 30 minute slow down limit?
4: How sensitive is the license to swapping equipment? F.X. RAM or video cards
Thanks in advance!
I'm not an expert, but I think I know the answer. Piru or a dev can correct me if I am wrong.
1) The MOS team tells you a specific procedure to prove to follow to prove the machine is truly dead forever. i don't know the procure, but I suspect prying off a vital chip and mailing it to a team member.
2) No.
3) No, expect for supporting MorphOS future development.
4) Not sensitive.
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The compulsory licensing scheme that ties the license to the machine is crap. I understand why they are doing it, but I don't like it. All things considered and compared to the Amiga clone alternatives, it will be worth the money for me. I will be registering either tonight or by this weekend, if all goes well.
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YIKES... well bang goes my interest in MorphOS... :(
I didn't realise you needed a licence for it and all that malarky, I thought you just purchased it and it was yours to use as you see fit (and I don't mean pirating it)... :(
Oh well, guess that saves me looking for another Mac now... shame really... :(
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In addition it might be worth noting that new MorphOS versions are free to registered users (meaning that the keyfile works with future versions). This has been the case ever since MorphOS 2.0 release where the registration fee was introduced. This means that MorphOS 2.0 users have gotten 7 free upgrades so far.
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Franko > You can use it for free, but my understanding is it slows down after a 30 minute period, requiring a reboot.
Piru > Are there any central update option, ala synaptic, or are updates and patches installed by hand ?
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In addition it might be worth noting that new MorphOS versions are free to registered users (meaning that the keyfile works with future versions). This has been the case ever since MorphOS 2.0 release where the registration fee was introduced. This means that MorphOS 2.0 users have gotten 7 free upgrades so far.
Good point Piru. Been very pleased with my MorphOS experience.
The Dawg
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Franko > You can use it for free, but my understanding is it slows down after a 30 minute period, requiring a reboot.
Piru > Are there any central update option, ala synaptic, or are updates and patches installed by hand ?
I don't mind paying for it but when it comes to being told things like you need to prove your machine is broken, when you sell your machine you need to take it off etc... then I'm afraid that's a big No No to me... :(
If I pay for something I expect to be able to do with it as I please and not be told what I can and can't do with it... :(
Nothing against MorphOS as I was really getting very interested in it but when it comes to that kind on stuff then I'd rather not bother... :)
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Are there any central update option, ala synaptic, or are updates and patches installed by hand ?
Not as such. The new MorphOS release is announced and there will be a new ISO image to download. In order to upgrade the system must be booted from the ISO. This can be done by either burning the ISO on a CD-R/RW and booting from it, or by placing the ISO on HDD and booting with special boot option to mount the ISO from the HDD.
When you install a new release over old one the installer presets options to upgrade (default) or to perform a new install. Old settings and installed applications are preserved on upgrade (this is possible because MorphOS has a separate directory for the OS components, allowing safe upgrading of the components).
In some rare occasions we might provide quick fixes between releases (for instance the LhA year 2011 issue fix earlier this year). These are accompanied with instructions on how to install them manually.
So in all, not as fancy as various linux distributions such as Debian based ones, but at least the upgrade process is quite painless.
Some notes: The OS is functional when booted from the CD. This way it is possible to use the CD as a rescue disc or livecd. For example it's easy to boot from the CD in case the HDD installation somehow fails to boot due to some recently installed 3rd party component. Also, since the CD boot doesn't write to the system HDD (unless if you proceed to install the OS) it is useful for safely testing MorphOS on systems that have other OS installed on the HDD already.
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I understand this licensing scheme could be considered draconian by some, but other options (such as activation over network & periodic license validity checks over network, or some scheme that would be easy to pirate) would IMHO be even worse. The downside clearly is that we cannot offer discount packages such as "family packs" and the need to manually transfer license in a case of a HW failure.
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I don't mind paying for it but when it comes to being told things like you need to prove your machine is broken, when you sell your machine you need to take it off etc... then I'm afraid that's a big No No to me... :(
If I pay for something I expect to be able to do with it as I please and not be told what I can and can't do with it... :(
Nothing against MorphOS as I was really getting very interested in it but when it comes to that kind on stuff then I'd rather not bother... :)
The maschine binding is probably not ideal from a user's POV. But it is not that big issue tehn again. If your maschine goes kaputt - you get a new license.
If you want to upgrade, sell teh old maschie with license off. May lead to a little loss, but that's it. Before registering you have enough time to evaluate it. The demo version is 100% identical to the reg'd version except that it will slow down after 30 min (a warning is issued a minute before) and you have to reboot. But I agree, ideal for the user is a version wothout keys at all. But then again it is about fairness. There's a trade off between cnvenience and ROI for the development. Difficult to balance, though.
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@ zylesae
I was (possibly still am) looking to try MorphOS for myself but when it comes to these licence things then I have my doubts. It's nothing to do with money as I would be quite happy to pay if I found that I liked it. However you do say it has an evaluation period so that sound good to me... :)
(interest re-kindled... :))
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When you install a new release over old one the installer presets options to upgrade (default) or to perform a new install. Old settings and installed applications are preserved on upgrade (this is possible because MorphOS has a separate directory for the OS components, allowing safe upgrading of the components).
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Which really works well. On my Efika I did 7 updates and never lost my settings. On my Mac mini the updates also went fine (but were fewer, since support for that maschine was introduced with 2.4).
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@ zylesae
I was (possibly still am) looking to try MorphOS for myself but when it comes to these licence things then I have my doubts. It's nothing to do with money as I would be quite happy to pay if I found that I liked it. However you do say it has an evaluation period so that sound good to me... :)
(interest re-kindled... :))
I fully understand your concerns. I myself am also not too happy with that system, but eventually I accept it since it seems the most fair one.
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The maschine binding is probably not ideal from a user's POV. But it is not that big issue tehn again. If your maschine goes kaputt - you get a new license.
If you want to upgrade, sell teh old maschie with license off. May lead to a little loss, but that's it. Before registering you have enough time to evaluate it. The demo version is 100% identical to the reg'd version except that it will slow down after 30 min (a warning is issued a minute before) and you have to reboot. But I agree, ideal for the user is a version wothout keys at all. But then again it is about fairness. There's a trade off between cnvenience and ROI for the development. Difficult to balance, though.
For me it's a big issue, big enough to stop using MorphOS after 7 years. I don't mind paying for a license, as a matter of fact I did.
I don't want to be bothered by selling my computer with a registerd MorphOS copy just to upgrade to a better computer or convince the MorphOS team my computer is broken. I just want to be able to buy better hardware if available and supported by MorphOS and use my registered MorphOS copy on that without any fuss.
As long as that restriction exists I'm not going to invest in MorphOS again.
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For me it's a big deal, big enough to stop using MorphOS after 7 years. I don't mind paying for a license, as a matter of fact I did.
I don't want to be bothered by selling my computer with a registerd MorphOS copy just to upgrade to a better computer or convince the MorphOS team my computer is broken. I just want to buy better hardware if available and supported by MorphOS and use my registered MorphOS copy on that.
As long as that restriction exists I'm not going to invest in MorphOS again.
It is everyone's choice. But if I do the calculation for my Efika I cmae down to as little as 3.58 EUR/month. So even if I sold the maschine today and the share of the MorpHSO license would be only 35 EUR (less than 1/3 of the original price) MorphOS would have costed me less than 2.50 EUR/month. My Win XP license from the same time may be transferred to another maschine, but is outdated already (my MorphOS license is still the most recent one). It is written off after this time. And so is MorphOS. After all effectively MorphOS may be cheaper than a Windows OEM license. This is better handeled with some business calculation instead of principles and feelings. But nobody is forced to buy a license. It is a clear deal: take it or leave it.
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We'll see what I end up with, after trying it out, provided this mac mini deal goes through.
Thank you for all the information !
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It is everyone's choice. But if I do the calculation for my Efika I cmae down to as little as 3.58 EUR/month. So even if I sold the maschine today and the share of the MorpHSO license would be only 35 EUR (less than 1/3 of the original price) MorphOS would have costed me less than 2.50 EUR/month. My Win XP license from the same time may be transferred to another maschine, but is outdated already (my MorphOS license is still the most recent one). It is written off after this time. And so is MorphOS. After all effectively MorphOS may be cheaper than a Windows OEM license. This is better handeled with some business calculation instead of principles and feelings. But nobody is forced to buy a license. It is a clear deal: take it or leave it.
That calculation is very nice and all but I don't use Windows, I'm a Linux user so that nice calculation doesn't fly with me. I took the leave it option, sadly no more MorphOS skins and occasional ports from me.
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That calculation is very nice and all but I don't use Windows, I'm a Linux user so that nice calculation doesn't fly with me. I took the leave it option, sadly no more MorphOS skins and occasional ports from me.
I think you should consider AROS for your Amiga fix then - also a fine choice. ;-)
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Cost doesn't worry me too much. Limitations on the end user do.
But in the end, we'll see once I have a chance to test it, and how much I end up wanting to use it after messing around with the trial :)
I would /like/ this to become my day to day system.
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I think you should consider AROS for your Amiga fix then - also a fine choice. ;-)
Tried that, but after using MorphOS for so long Aros is just a very big step backwards. I've still got a couple of real Amiga's to get my Amiga fix :-)
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I don't mind paying for it but when it comes to being told things like you need to prove your machine is broken, when you sell your machine you need to take it off etc... then I'm afraid that's a big No No to me... :(
Franko,
Actually the opposite, it is suggested you sell the hardware with the Morphos license.
I sold my efika with license for $1 + the price of a new license for my mini g4 1.4. The efika was pretty lame - slow flaky USB, not enough ram, etc.
But... the end result may be yet another Morphos user somewhere. Probably a frustrated user, but a user that would not have happened had I simply transfered the licence to better hardware.
Perhaps when/if morphos is released for my powerbook5,8 I'll do the same with the mini g4. I'll ask more than $1 though...
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At the moment I have my 4th MorphOS machine. Past three ones I sold with licence fee calculated in price. What is such a big deal about it?
At least you can buy HW with on os 'suggested' by retailer or producer.
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As long as that restriction exists I'm not going to invest in MorphOS again.
Same here. If I cannot buy a license that gives me rights to install it on whatever hardware I decide myself, then I'm simply not interested in buying it at all.
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In addition it might be worth noting that new MorphOS versions are free to registered users (meaning that the keyfile works with future versions). This has been the case ever since MorphOS 2.0 release where the registration fee was introduced. This means that MorphOS 2.0 users have gotten 7 free upgrades so far.
If I buy MorphOS 2.7 do you know what will be the last free update version available to me? 2.8, 3.0, 3.5, 4.1 etc
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Same here. If I cannot buy a license that gives me rights to install it on whatever hardware I decide myself, then I'm simply not interested in buying it at all.
Crack it. ;)
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Actually the opposite, it is suggested you sell the hardware with the Morphos license.
And if he wants to keep the hardware to run OSX, Linux, *BSD or whatever?
This licensing scheme is just bullocks, plain and simple.
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And if he wants to keep the hardware to run OSX, Linux, *BSD or whatever?
This licensing scheme is just bullocks, plain and simple.
One has to ask if it's even legal within the EU?
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Crack it. ;)
Not worth it.
UAE on proper hardware runs in circles around it anyways.
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And if he wants to keep the hardware to run OSX, Linux, *BSD or whatever?
Rather academic and unlikely. The hw MorphOS runs on *is* already outdated and cheap. A Powermac goes for really little money and its worth is not really increasing over time. Or to say it that way: most of these computers are more or less worthless marketwise. There is not much to lose. If you happen to ditch your MorphOS installation on a Powermac and desperatle have the desire to run BSD on such a device, sell the reg'd maschine and buy another non reg'd one - you'll get a good share of the registration fee back.
And honestly - how often do you change your Amiga? Well, I bought somewhen in the nineties an A1200, 2002 as successor a Pegasos, 2008 as successor a Mac mini G4 - those devices are really written off. Life is too short for hindering principles (bit bold statement though, but there is some truth in it).
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Another question:
Is VAT charged for US customers or is it discounted?
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Rather academic and unlikely.
Excuse me? That is not unlikely for me and the people I surround myself with, I have yet to sell any computer that I've bought. And there's nothing desperate about running NetBSD on an old G4, stop being an arse.
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Of course I would like to be able to install my keyfile for all my computers too, but if you think it realistic, what would be the better licence scheme for both user and developers on current market situation? I think it's fair compromise currently.
If you could use bought keyfile without limits, that would crash the already small sales to bottom because of the illegal copying, that's for sure.
Any kind of network authentication would be doomed too. I trust my equipment lasts longer than any support services would probably be online in the future. I want to be sure I can reinstall my system in any situation in any time, even when the OS development has stopped. Just like with my old Amiga software.
And as said, you can sell your old keyfile with your old computer, if you want to part with it. In the most cases you have been using the system long enough to make it worth it even if you wouldn't get money back with selling. Compare it to other regular or annual expenses and it doesn't make that much. I bet you can get much more fun with it that many other activities you might be putting your money in.
Mainstream systems can afford for piracy, because of big userbase, but there are some licences tied to hw too.
In practise, OS4 is tied to HW too. You cannot buy new HW without the OS included and charged. And it has separate versions for each platform. If you want to upgrade from your old A1 to SAM or Peg2 or something else, you have to buy new copy of the OS. In practise the same thing like with MorphOS. It just isn't seemingly tied that tight to HW, which is possible because they don't have any support for mainstream HW and thus the piracy isn't such a problem.
I still own my Pegasos1, which has paid OS. And I still own my A1200, which has paid OS too (actually several). Even though I'm currently using Mac mini, I don't see any problem having bought software for those older computers in the past.
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Well, use whatever excuses you like. At the end of the day, the license issue is the final straw for quite a few of us. And, OS4 is not tied to the hardware.
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Well, use whatever excuses you like. At the end of the day, the license issue is the final straw for quite a few of us. And, OS4 is not tied to the hardware.
I'd still like to give it try using the trial period but these licence things really bug me, if for example I can't transfer the licence to a another machine if I decide to buy another computer then there is no way I'd purchase a licence... :)
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And, OS4 is not tied to the hardware.
Literally not, but in practise it is in the cases many have said here against MorphOS's policy.
I'd still like to give it try using the trial period
Just to make sure, it isn't like trial period is with many other programs. You can use it as long as you want. Feel free to use it 10 years without registration, it just slows down after 30 mins on every session and gives you nagging requester. You can continue to use it anyway and you aren't forced to reboot, but reboot will make it fast for another 30 mins again and again.
but these licence things really bug me, if for example I can't transfer the licence to a another machine if I decide to buy another computer then there is no way I'd purchase a licence... :)
You have been given many options. My advice is to buy good enough machine which you aren't going to give up anytime soon. Or get some dirt cheap test machine before buying proper one for registration.
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You have been given many options. My advice is to buy good enough machine which you aren't going to give up anytime soon. Or get some dirt cheap test machine before buying proper one for registration.
That sounds like good advice to me... cheers... :)
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Literally not, but in practise it is in the cases many have said here against MorphOS's policy.
Not at all. With OS4 I can easily replace hardware as I'm pleased without having to send any documentation about anything to anyone.
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Not at all. With OS4 I can easily replace hardware as I'm pleased without having to send any documentation about anything to anyone.
But replace it with what? Most OS4 hardware comes bundled with the OS.
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@kolla
Not at all. With OS4 I can easily replace hardware as I'm pleased without having to send any documentation about anything to anyone.
In practise it you can replace only Pegasos and PowerUp without having to buy new license. You can not buy A1 or SAM, new or used, without OS4.
I dont know if they are going to release 4.2 what can be installed on any machine but so far version 4.1 has been tailored for each platform.
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You can not buy A1 or SAM, new or used, without OS4.
I'd sell my A1 without OS4 if somebody wanted the hunk of crap!
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I'd sell my A1 without OS4 if somebody wanted the hunk of crap!
Thanks, but No Thanks!
I've had my share of AmigaOne's already...
(and OS4 for that matter!)
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Anyway, why there are limitations with MorphOS license scheme it allows some advantages:
* full demo version can be distributed freely over internet
* demo version can be turned into purchased copy without reinstalling anything
* downloading updates dont require further registration nor the original CD/ISO image
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Only thing I do find offputting about this licensing scheme is the fact that once my Mini arrives and I reg Morph, if I enjoy the OS - chances are high to guaranteed I'll end up buying a more powerful PPC Mac in the future as Morph brings out support for them. It'd be nice to be able to decommission the mini MorphOS license and transfer it to another machine, but if this is possible with the current methods MorphOS uses, I haven't found any info on it.
Hell, I'd even pay a license transfer fee rather than buy a whole new OS copy, considering once the Mini is replaced I'll likely either sell it with Mac OS/Linux on it and never use MorphOS on it again myself. I don't have an issue with the OS locked to one specific bit of hardware via MAC addresses or other methods, it's just bothersome to have to shell out cash for another copy rather than be able to transfer the key from another machine to a newer/better one if the lower end one that's entirely not being used is outright decommissioned.
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Not aimed at any one person in this thread:
The MorphOS2.x licensing model is not ideal from the users POV, but no one has come up with an alternative model that is better and still provides an equal amount of protection against piracy for the Dev. Team.
AROS users have no problem with licenses, but OS4.x users are not much better off than MorphOS2.x users, as they can't transfer their OS4.x license when they upgrade their SAM440ep/flex to a new SAM460 (or can they), or to a Pegasos2, or to the X1000 if/when they are available to purchase. Linux users are in the same boat as AROS users, but Windows users often run into problems some time down the road with updates, after they have moved their license from one machine to another.
The current MorphOS2.x license model is not for everyone, but I have no problem with it and find it laughable that so many people try to make a big deal of it. If you don't like MorphOS2.x, or if you don't want it to prosper because you prefer another alternative, then just say so and use the advantages of your preferred OS to convince others to try it, but don't try to dissuade anyone else from trying MorphOS2.x just because the license model is different than Windows, or not needing any license like AROS, or Linux.
@Duce,
Either don't register your MacMini and use it in the free mode until you find and purchase the more powerful PPC Mac in the future, or buy the license for the MacMini and then when you upgrade to a more powerful PPC Mac, sell the MacMini and the MorphOS2.x license together to pay for the new license. Like I said, it is not the best solution for us users, but unless you have a better solution for both users and the MorphOS Dev. Team, nothing is likely to change.
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The MorphOS2.x licensing model is not ideal from the users POV, but no one has come up with an alternative model that is better and still provides an equal amount of protection against piracy for the Dev. Team.
Who would pirate MorphOS? Is there really that much interest? I doubt it.
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I dont know if its ridiculous at all. Obviously its a common concern.
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Who would pirate MorphOS? Is there really that much interest? I doubt it.
How many of the 1100 current licenses would have been paid for if they could have easily pirated it?
When you are trying to get paid back some small amount for the hundreds, or thousands of hours of coding you have done in such a small market (as you often point out), any amount of pirating can be very detrimental.
Your persistence in posting negative comments regarding all things related to MorphOS2.x has been very consistent, so it is obvious that you have some interest in doubting and discouraging any interest that anyone else might have in MorphOS2.x.
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I have a related question - I have just got a Mac Mini and installed MorphOS on it. I'm considering registering but I was wondering, if the hard drive failed or I decided to upgrade it, how easy would it be to transfer the licence to the new installation? Is it just a case of keeping a backup of a keyfile and copying it across to the new drive? I'm assuming a change of drive wouldn't be a problem as the rest of the machine would be the same.
Thanks in advance.
Matthew
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Its weekend so probably slow, but just a heads up, that I am still wondering about whether VAT is charged to US customers.
Alternatively, anyone in the US who can confirm or deny ?
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Keyfile is bound to the MAC-address of the onboard ethernet-chip, so you can change anything but the motherboard.
True for all supported systems (except some early Pegasos1 which hav an invalid MAC-Address).
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Thanks for clearing that up Kronos. I'll see about registering after payday :)
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Its weekend so probably slow, but just a heads up, that I am still wondering about whether VAT is charged to US customers.
Alternatively, anyone in the US who can confirm or deny ?
VAT is charged for EVERYONE regardless of location because they are too lazy to set it up correctly. So living in the USA, you still pay the +VAT price.
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Its weekend so probably slow, but just a heads up, that I am still wondering about whether VAT is charged to US customers.
Alternatively, anyone in the US who can confirm or deny ?
As I recall, it is. I think the rationale is that there's some extra layer of tax/income reporting they'd have to deal with otherwise.
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Nyeh.
I've dealth with very niche companies in the UK (tabletop wargaming stuff) that don't charge it to US customers.
In the end, I think I'll pass, but I appreciate the information that has been given.
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@ runequester
Yeah, it's a little frustrating for us on this side of the pond, but in the end I feel as if I'm paying for a labor of love, so it doesn't bother me much :)
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German tax system is probably the most complicated and one of the worst of all countries. It's a major hassle to do anything with the tax here...
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Who would pirate MorphOS? Is there really that much interest? I doubt it.
There is still Amiga OS 4.1 for Sam on torrents so i presume there might be some idiots to be able to pirate MorphOS as well.
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Why are some people always ranting about the license ? If you want a free OS, use linux. And don't bother using AROS, because you probably end up ranting it isn't good enough or x86 is evil and that "the" other OS is so much better... blah blah. Boring. We all know the supposed pros and cons, ridiculous ones or not ... we have heard them by now.
Or you support the devs for the work they have done or you just leave it and look elsewhere. OS4, MorphOS, Microsoft, Apple ... work has to be paid. Or do you work for free for your boss ? But going on how bad YOU find the chosen method of licensing again and again... that's just "under the belt"
If your machine is broken, they are ready to listen. And I know that because it happened to myself. If you want another machine for whatever reason ... fine, sell the old one with the license. I did it with my Efika and I really had no trouble at all getting rid of that (in my opinion) little piece of cr*p.
About the tax .. what's that 20 euro ? Stay away from the booze for a weekend or quit smoking... or maybe they can work with a reseller for licences in the USA, Australia, ...
Long story short ... if you still like using your A1200 or A4000 and you still pump money in it, you sure can afford an old powermac and a MorphOS license and you will like that also.
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About the tax .. what's that 20 euro ? Stay away from the booze for a weekend or quit smoking... or maybe they can work with a reseller for licences in the USA, Australia, ...
yeah, most people are fine with arbitrarily paying more money, based on where they live.
As far as the licensing, either you care about user freedoms or you don't. Given that Microsoft and Apple are the business models being emulated here, I am guessing they don't.
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yeah, most people are fine with arbitrarily paying more money, based on where they live.
As far as the licensing, either you care about user freedoms or you don't. Given that Microsoft and Apple are the business models being emulated here, I am guessing they don't.
Paying the tax secures stability of the Euro. If the Euro would fail the rest of the world would get flooded by cheap European producs and US producs won't sell at all. German finance ministery and Mrs Merkel are doing it all for the world econonmy ;) .
Buy MorphOS - save world econony ;)
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I really like MorphOS, but have to agree that there must be a better licensing methodology developed. As a matter of fact, I've been hanging out to see a thread like this for ages!
If I'd purchased it when I only had the Efika, then I couldn't install it on my Mac Mini without smashing the Efika & sending parts of it to ?Germany?
Erm, not a fugging chance!
Again, MorphOS is cool, but I'll never buy it when demolition of an old machine is the only option...
What if I had a Pegasos & wanted to migrate to a Mac Mini? "Yeah dude, just smash it to bits, it's all cool"!
PZ.
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I really like MorphOS, but have to agree that there must be a better licensing methodology developed. As a matter of fact, I've been hanging out to see a thread like this for ages!
If you have any reasonable ideas how that could work, I'm sure the team would be happy to hear them.
If I'd purchased it when I only had the Efika, then I couldn't install it on my Mac Mini without smashing the Efika & sending parts of it to ?Germany?
Erm, not a fugging chance!
Well... you actually need to install it before you can register. I don't think anyone wants you to break your old hw, and you are free to sell the old hw + license.
Again, MorphOS is cool, but I'll never buy it when demolition of an old machine is the only option...
Again... it is not the only option, users are free to sell their license bundled with the hardware.
What if I had a Pegasos & wanted to migrate to a Mac Mini? "Yeah dude, just smash it to bits, it's all cool"!
See above.
Now if you can think of a better way to handle this, one that cannot easily be abused, feel free to share.
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Could the MAC adresses of transfered licences be ruled out in OS-updates ? Or some automatic update that disables it as soon as it goes online ?