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Offline Gulliver

PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« on: April 15, 2010, 06:05:33 PM »
I sent an email to the creator of the widely known Amiga Professional Filesystem, Michiel Pelt, and he seems to be willing to share his creation with the entire comunity, and he is also willing to give away the sourcecode of it. For further details what follows is an email exchange we had, and will keep having :)

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Ignacio  wrote:

Hi, I am sorry to bother you with this ten year old stuff. The thing is that I have bought PFS 3 Amiga filesystem solution a couple of years ago.
It is great sofware for Amigas, and since you have been in the past a great supporter and developer for this now small Amiga community, is that I dare ask you if you could please allow me to put these files on the Public Domain, so that they are freely available to everyone. I would also add if you think it is necessary, that you wont provide any suport whatsoever, and not be liable for any damage at all.
By the way, if at some point, you are willing to give out the sources of this excellent software for non commercial purposes (If you still have them), that would be even better.
So please, just say yes.


Thank you for your time,
Regards,
Ignacio gully


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"Michiel Pelt"
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"Ignacio"
Hi Ignacio,

For me it are good old times. How different things would be if the
Amiga platform had been in capable hands. I remained hopeful for a
long time. I even have a complete design of PFS4 on the shelves, but
eventually I gave up on the promise of a future for the Amiga.  I
think it is great an Amiga community still exists though.

About your request. Yes, I think it is about time to make PFS3
available in the Public Domain. However I must think about the license
to use. Can you tell me what the main public domain channel for the
Amiga is these days?

I do still have the sources but I don't have an Amiga - my A4000 was
broken beyond repair and is gone now. I can't release the sources
without one because I have to make clear instructions of how to set up
the build environment and build PFS which I can't without being able
to verify. I guess I'll have to set up a WinUAE environment but then
there is the problem Amiga floppies cannot be read. I still have the
compiler, the workbench etc, but it is on floppy. So this is not going
to be easy. As you still are in the Amiga community, perhaps you have
some ideas.

Regards
Michiel Pelt
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 06:08:51 PM »
This is the PFS3 feature list, for those that dont know much about this filesystem:

PFS Doctor, a repair program
User definable deldir up to 992 entries!
Extra long filenames, up to 100 characters (optional)
Improved long term performance, PFS3 hardly fragmentates !
HDInsttools for easy installation
Our own format command
Several bugfixes
superior performance. Up-to 500% improvement over FFS/DOS5!.  
disk are always valid. No more 'validation disk'!
supports partitions upto 104 Gigabyte
supports harddisk sizes upto 2000 Gigabyte
works on all Amiga's/harddisks without the need for extra hard or software!
TD64 support
excellent reliability
concurrent access without performance loss. PFS3 handles simultaneous accesses very well!
easy file-recovery with the delete directory. Getting a deleted file back never was so easy.
automatically truncated logfiles. Get rid of those ever growing logfiles.
multiuser support
Special upgrade price for PFS2 users, NLG 89 including P&P.
68000, 68020, 68040 and 68060 optimized versions

Built-in interface for the live optimiser that is under development. This interface makes it
possible to optimise the disk without taking it off-line. When the disk is accessed during
optimisation, PFS2 will stop the optimiser, which can continue afterwards. A dormant optimiser
can even be automatically notified when the system is idle, making optimisation completely
transparent.

improved testing procedures making PFS3 more stable and reliable then ever before.
enhanced documentation including programming docs (disk structure and special packets).
new versions of supplied tools (bug-fixes mostly), diskvalid etc
full support

early problem detection mechanism. The early problem detection mechanism detects problems with
your disk before it is too late, ensuring optimal protection of your data.

extended disk structure to make disk-repair easier
Comes on CD
PFS3 makes your Amiga faster!
 

Offline ElPolloDiabl

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010, 06:10:35 PM »
Good. PFS did very well on some benchmark tests I saw a long time ago. Twice as fast as FFS in many tests? Anyone have a benchmark reference?
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Offline Robert17

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 06:14:40 PM »
It's worth noting that it also works on 68000 based Amigas, whereas SFS requires an 020 or higher. I use PFS On an A500+ With a GVP HD8+ and it works very nicely :-)

Robert
Member of the Lincs Amiga Group, UK :-)
 

Offline koshman

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 06:17:43 PM »
Now that is some great news indeed!
It makes me happy to know that in these times when getting keys to old abandoned Amiga software is getting harder and harder, at least some of the authors are sensible enough to realize how much the community will appreciate them releasing their products for free when these cannot be bought any longer.
Hats off to Michiel Pelt and also to you, Gulliver, for your effort.

I hope others will follow...
- Radim
 
A600 - 68020/33, 10MB RAM, 3.1, 2GB SD
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010, 09:06:19 PM »
this is truly very cool news. if i tried  also to contact him to buy a copy after sfs caused me trouble, but with no success. i fine with ffs for now but occasional validation failures, and now cubic_ide complaining about filesystem not supporting long filenames make me want to switch to psf even more.

gulliver, many thanks!!
 

Offline Dwyloc

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 10:01:49 PM »
Quote from: Robert17;553701
It's worth noting that it also works on 68000 based Amigas, whereas SFS requires an 020 or higher. I use PFS On an A500+ With a GVP HD8+ and it works very nicely :-)

Thanks for the reminder that PFS3 works on a 68000 based Amiga as I own and use a Minimig with a 68000 and arm addon board it sounds like PFS3 would be a better option than using FFS on my little Amiga clone if it dose become free :-)
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Offline Cammy

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 11:13:52 PM »
This is fantastic news! I will definitely be installing PFS3 on a few Amigas around the office soon, I've wanted to check it out on the 68000 Amigas for a while now.

It also makes me wonder how many other ex-Amiga coders would be willing to give up their source code if only we sent them a friendly email.
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Offline NovaCoder

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 12:28:52 AM »
Nice work Gulliver, if you don't ask......you don't get ;)
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Offline AmigaMance

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 12:31:09 AM »
Woohoo!

Quote from: NovaCoder;553749
Nice work Gulliver, if you don't ask......you don't get ;)

[evil mode]I wish i had the same luck with the author of FramSticks. He declined my request :pissed: [/evil mode]

Quote from: Fanscale;553700
Good. PFS did very well on some benchmark tests I saw a long time ago. Twice as fast as FFS in many tests? Anyone have a benchmark reference?

 I don't have a benchmark result at hand, but i'm sure that it's much more than twice as fast. It's faster than SFS in some operations, at least. This is for 68k Amigas.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2010, 12:34:49 AM by AmigaMance »
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Offline matthey

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 05:00:58 AM »
Great news! Thanks Michiel and Gulliver.
 

Offline whiteb

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 06:04:19 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;553742
This is fantastic news! I will definitely be installing PFS3 on a few Amigas around the office soon, I've wanted to check it out on the 68000 Amigas for a while now.

It also makes me wonder how many other ex-Amiga coders would be willing to give up their source code if only we sent them a friendly email.


I tried contacting the Author of Sysinfo, he seemed quite open to the idea, but alas he said he did not know where the source code was.......

Quote

Hi,

 

Wow a blast from the past.  Yes I am the same person and wrote that program in assembly language many years ago when I first started in computing.  I have no idea if I have the source code somewhere,  if I do I would need to try and find it,  its if the storage medium has survived these years I am really not sure.

 

the address in the current version being used by the community could be hacked and my current address put in.  If you can do this I suggest just hacking out the address and putting in my email address that wont change  nic@nicwilson.com   and or maybe the dvdinfopro web site.

I will see what I can find.

regards

Nic Wilson
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A1000

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Offline mfilos

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 06:05:16 AM »
My friend Gulliver if Michiel does indeed needs an Amiga to test and release his wonderfull product, we could help him out by making him easily an A1200 for his purposes.
For my part, I have an A1200 mobo with 3.1 kickstart plus CF HD that I can part with. Finding a case plus the usual extra is easy as hell :) (I can gather this stuff out myself only if needed)
I just liked the things he said, and I salute a nice developer that he's willing to part with his work for the community.
Ask him if he would be willing to receive an A1200 for this goal and we'll be in touch my friend.

Cheers and thanks for asking all these peepz in the first place Gulliver.
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Offline Gulliver

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2010, 06:49:58 AM »
@All
Thank you for your kind words. Lets be patient and keep our hopes high.

@Cammy and @whiteb
There is no deceit in asking. We should ask more devs, remember some of them are or have been great Amiga fans

@mfilos
I have already replied to Michel with some help for him. If that doesnt suit him, then I will surely need to ask a hand to generous users such as yourself.
On another related subject, I have more good news my friend, but will need to create a separate thread for that ;)
 

Offline Karlos

Re: PFS3 is soon to become free and opensource
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2010, 09:37:01 AM »
An open PFS would be very nice. It is a quality filesystem.
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