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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: motorollin on March 21, 2007, 09:25:40 PM

Title: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 21, 2007, 09:25:40 PM
I've just noticed that the new version of AmiKit support dual PNG icons. What does this mean? Does it means the icons change to another image like Workbench icons should? How was this achieved? I've checked and can't find an update to PowerIcons. I'm thinking it might be something to do with AfAOS, but I can't find any information about this on their web site.

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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Flashlab on March 21, 2007, 09:29:23 PM
Very interested too!
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Amigaz on March 21, 2007, 09:37:37 PM
Using it here on some of my Amiga's, first it was achieved with AfA_OS and an extra "Iconlib" now with the latest AfA version it's all integrated in the new package

It's a replacement for PowerIcons, yes

dual PNG icons are like the glowicons but now with the new AfA_OS they're 32bit like in OS4
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Flashlab on March 21, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
How fast (read slow) is AfA with dual PNG icons on a real Amiga?
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Amigaz on March 21, 2007, 09:43:05 PM
A bit faster than Ken's Icons and IconBeFast

Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 21, 2007, 09:43:26 PM
That was going to be my next question :-)

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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 21, 2007, 09:43:55 PM
Is it quicker than plain PowerIcons?

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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Amigaz on March 21, 2007, 09:44:56 PM
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motorollin wrote:
Is it quicker than plain PowerIcons?

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moto


Yes
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 21, 2007, 09:48:35 PM
I've heard AfA OS can be a pain to get working. Is it worth installing it? Is the speedup that good?

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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Flashlab on March 21, 2007, 09:52:06 PM
Hmm maybe I need to backup my config and get started on installing AfA!
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Amigaz on March 21, 2007, 09:53:37 PM
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motorollin wrote:
I've heard AfA OS can be a pain to get working. Is it worth installing it? Is the speedup that good?

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moto


It very easy to "install" and get working, I always take a peek at AmiKit's startup-sequence when using stuff that's also in AmiKit and use it's startup-sequence as a template..it has never failed me
It's very easy also to disable AfA....just comment out it's launch line in startup-sequence  ;-)

If you already use IconBeFast and don't need 32bit dual image icons and truetype ant aliased fonts there's no need imho to use AfA, the speedup with the new AfA isn't that big
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: jmbattle on March 21, 2007, 09:57:22 PM
From who?

It's a piece of cake - just copy a few libraries, assign them and run the executable from the startup-sequence.

Hardly rocket science for most Amiga users.

James
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Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: humppa on March 21, 2007, 09:57:30 PM
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I've heard AfA OS can be a pain to get working.


The first versions were quite buggy, in fact public alpha releases, nice enough to be able to play around with them.
3.95 is actually quite straight-forward to get running.

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Is it worth installing it?


Yes. With truetype fonts and PNG icons, my Workbench looks really gorgeous now.

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Is the speedup that good?


In comparison to powericons it's worth it. Truetype fonts with antialiasing might slow the system down a bit, but I wouldn't want anymore to look at Aweb or IBrowse with those horrible blocky bitmap fonts.
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 21, 2007, 09:57:58 PM
I think I'll have a go at installing it as I like the idea of using TrueType antialiased fonts on my Workbench. Am I correct in thinking that AfA OS is intended to allow AROS functions to be backported to 68k AmigaOS?

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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 21, 2007, 10:41:01 PM
Hmm I installed it as described in the document but my system just hangs when the Workbench screen opens. I tried adding "Set USESEMAPHORES 0" to the startup-sequence just before afa_os_loader but this made no difference  :-?

[EDIT]And yes I commented out VisualPrefs and PowerIcons[/EDIT]

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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Amigaz on March 22, 2007, 07:52:30 AM
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motorollin wrote:
Hmm I installed it as described in the document but my system just hangs when the Workbench screen opens. I tried adding "Set USESEMAPHORES 0" to the startup-sequence just before afa_os_loader but this made no difference  :-?

[EDIT]And yes I commented out VisualPrefs and PowerIcons[/EDIT]

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Show us yer startup-sequence
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 22, 2007, 08:01:25 AM
; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.2 (19.1.2001)
; Startup-Sequence for AmigaOS 3.9

SetPatch QUIET

C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ

Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE

Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

C:LoadMonDrvs

SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
Run >NIL: C:PowerIcons
;Set USESEMAPHORES 0
;Run >NIL: C:AfA_OS_Loader
Run >NIL: C:VisualPrefs
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
  Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:




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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: AmiKit on March 22, 2007, 01:21:37 PM
Add Assign >NIL: AfA_OS_Libs: pointing to AfA_OS_Libs directory. Add it before the AfA_OS_Loader line.

If it doesn't help either, try to remove some files from AfA_OS_Libs directory to find out which one hangs.
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: motorollin on March 25, 2007, 12:55:29 PM
Adding the assign didn't help so I moved all of the libraries in to a temporary folder and moved them back one by one. It turns out the graphics library was making it hang. Also, even with just the afa_system_lib present, the 3.9 version of workbench.library doesn't seem to take effect as Amidock doesn't load and my dialogs (e.g. Execute Command) all change back to the 3.1 versions  :-?

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moto
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: Flashlab on June 22, 2007, 09:35:52 PM
I tried AfA but man those icons are slow. Beautiful but slow... Definately slower than my OS3.9 icons with the IconBeFast library. Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: "Dual" PNG icons
Post by: AJS on June 22, 2007, 10:17:59 PM
If they are Kens Icons from amikit, you can download his latest lot from the link here   From the man himself (http://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=805&forum=7)
hope that helps :-)