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Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« on: December 04, 2002, 11:48:27 PM »
Now This is a strong reaction! :-o
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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2002, 12:05:32 AM »
No kidding!  I happen to agree with it, too!   :-)
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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2002, 12:20:46 AM »
Hey, mountainmyst!  You reading this?  Couls we press yo for a comment?
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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2002, 12:58:20 AM »
Wow Team Amiga only had to shrink down to 17 or so people, to be small enough to make a decision about something.

oh well, we'll probably hear the retraction in a day or two, probably someone acted on their own, or at least we'll hear back from the (undoubtedly) 8  members who voted against the resolution and will break off from Team Amiga now and write a blistering dissent web page

Oh gosh, I wish Team Amiga wasn't a joke, I really do.....for gosh sakes, someone at least post the rant in german.
 

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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2002, 01:23:00 AM »
WOW!

Hows that for saying whats on your mind. I do tend to agree with a lot of what  they are saying. I don't buy bootleged software. There needs to be strong support for developers, so we can get good and stable software.

I would like to see Bernie get some loot for his work. Man that burns me, that he's getting ripped off. Reminds me of one of my heroes, Preston Tucker. He built one of the most forward thinking and safest cars ever! And the big car companies shut him down with legal garbage.

Maybe the little guy can have a chance?

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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2002, 01:51:28 AM »
WOW!!!

Isn't that amazing?

It's the same thing I've been saying for a week now.

Only I'm a retard.
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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2002, 01:59:34 AM »
All I can say is that there would be some real
noise if that was an Israeli flag they were
crushing.


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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2002, 02:04:51 AM »


Is that a german flag... Why is the german being crushed? I think its supposed to represet that certain copmany in a certain country but doesnt this say all germans?
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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2002, 02:07:41 AM »
Don't mean to hose the party up, but using the German flag as a hint
for who they are pointing to is kind of wrong.  I'm sure there are
Germans who believe that H&P are stealing Amiga/Bernie's IP.  Yet,
they even they might be offended by such an image that implies that
Germans are pirates.

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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2002, 02:13:53 AM »
They are just showing where the recent attacks are coming from.

Not Germans, but certain German based companies.

It does not speak against the Germans at all, although if one did not think about it well, I reckon it could be taken as that.
 

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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2002, 02:14:01 AM »
I agree, and that's the reason why I immediately
disregarded their message.

H&P in particular may be in some hot water right
now, but I can't help but notice all those German
names in the last few OS releases, not to mention
all the fancy accelerators and video boards...maybe
Team Amiga has some of their own hardware designs
on the back burner? Or a better OS maybe?

I still agree with some of the issues being raised,
but I think it is unfair to make Amiga dealers bear
the brunt. They have paid for the product already;
it's not their fault. Maybe Team Amiga should buy the
remaining copies and donate the proceeds.
 

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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2002, 02:35:11 AM »
erhm, well I don't know that not mentioning Haage&Partner is really going to keep Team Amiga from legal complications, when in their own rant they state that everyone knows who they mean.  That being the case, there isn't much room for plausible deniability here....'I meant someone else'.

And the other thing, boycotts are sometimes a tricky thing, legally, but they are done sometimes and they aren't necessarily illegal, but they went beyond calling for a boycott to disrupting people's business in other ways.

But, while thats fun to talk about, I don't think they will be in any legal trouble, on account of someone can't sue to recover damages unless they are actually damaged in some way, which hasn't happened, and finally, even if that did happen, there is still the question of whether its worth it considering international boundaries and the fact that team amiga has no money....so I digress...

yes the insult to germans, who make the largest part of the amiga community, means that this letter (as I mentioned not even written in german anyway) is largely ineffective, and perhaps it even moves people the other way, in greater sympathy with H&P.

FInally, BREATHE....finally, the biggest offense, is its just plain dorky.....the 'miggy pyramid'???...this 'community'  is beginning to remind me of a Dungeon's and Dragon's tournament, or maybe one of those re-enactment renaissance societies...(i.e. dorkville)
 

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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2002, 02:55:04 AM »
> I agree, and that's the reason why I immediately
> disregarded their message.

> H&P in particular may be in some hot water right
> now, but I can't help but notice all those German
> names in the last few OS releases, not to mention
> all the fancy accelerators and video
> boards...maybe
> Team Amiga has some of their own hardware
> designs
> on the back burner? Or a better OS maybe?

Everyone knows why the German flag is there, to be offended by it is ridiculous.

> I still agree with some of the issues being raised,
> but I think it is unfair to make Amiga dealers bear
> the brunt. They have paid for the product already;
> it's not their fault.

The product has been publicly illegal for six months now. They've had more than enough time to get rid of old stock. Legally, they shouldn't even have had that. try selling Windows illegally for six months and see if anyone cares how "fair" it is that you got stuck with illegal products.

it's "Illegal", you don't get to sell "Illegal" goods just because you think it's "fair", it's still a crime. The distributers need to take this up with whomever is supplying *them* with the illegal products. Period. if the Vendor doesn't reinburse the distributer, the distributer should seriously think about discontinuing their business relationship with that vendor. To handle this in any other way, is not only wrong, but illegal, this is the ONLY way.

People are just going to have to accept it, be LEGAL or we'll shop elsewhere. Imagine that.

> Maybe Team Amiga should buy the
> remaining copies and donate the proceeds.

Team Amiga  isn't the villian, for just once do you think you people could direct your contempt towards the +people causing the problems* for a change?

Only H&P and a handfull of retailers are responsible for the illegal sales now taking place. Let those commiting the crime be held liable for eating the cost of the illegal merchandise.

Amiga will never get anywhere untill the garbage has been cleaned out of the backyard. This is a step in the right direction.
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Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2002, 02:59:19 AM »
Heh.

Tell them again T_Bone.

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Offline Damion

Re: Team Amiga Reaction to the Bernithlon Situation
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2002, 02:59:55 AM »
Yeah, the miggy pyramid is totally gay...

Look T_Bone, I don't have to 'join up' with
Team Amiga OR H&P in order to have an opinion
on this. I think their both lame in this
situation. H&P delivers their usual corporate
BS, and Team Amiga is drawing insulting animations.
It's silly to use the flag of an entire country to
represent ONE company in that country. That's like
using the US flag as the definitive symbol for the
Ford Escort or Bill Clinton.

Personally, I think it sucks that Mr.Meyer is losing
out on this one, and I really hope he gets his money
out of it. But boycotting Software Hut isn't going to
solve the problem, IMO.