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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2003, 11:48:28 PM »
"But you're gonna find it hard to get a hard drive that's ultra-quiet, and even harder to get a silent PSU"

I have the Seagate Barracuda V which is very quiet, and seems to perform well. Unfortunately I've yet to get other silent components like the PSU, so its efforts are mostly wasted on my setup, but I've seen the Seagate Barracuda IV in action on a PC that was completely silent.
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2003, 11:55:19 PM »
More fun hardware to play with!!
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Re: the 10,000 dollar question is
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2003, 03:16:00 AM »
Why won't Thendic and Hyperion come to terms on getting OS4 running on this hardware?

Not to knock Eyetech, but the Peg II is much more impressive from several perspectives.

The marketing and information presentation for the product is far more professional than the A1.  The product brings more to the table at a lower price than the A1.  
If there are two camps in this war, I would belong to the AmigaOS camp, but this hardware and it's presentation make the A1 look like a basement project.
Do what you have to do, but do it.
Hell, put a damned USB dongle for OS4 in the box with the OS.  I don't care... If the A1 is not ready to roll with comparable price/performance when my year end bonus hits in Feb, I may be running MorphOS.
Scratch that...
I don't want to run MorphOS.
I will buy me a damned x86 linux/lindows box first.

Cut the chicken-**** crapola and get OS4 on this machine!  That should be a higher priority than a Cyberstorm version.
Failure to do so makes both sides look bad and the real losers are the users.
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2003, 05:31:39 AM »
Wow! That's not bad!

Looks a bit like the old one ;-)

However, I'm sure it would be better.

What are the advantages over peg I again? :-)


(Oh yeah, I'd still prefer more PCI slots :-P )
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2003, 08:57:10 AM »
>What are the advantages over peg I again?

Out of my head:
- cheaper to produce (eg. no april needed
- cheaper RAM
- a little bit faster (real 133Mhz FSB, a northbridge that definitely is not a bottlenec, system memory bus has more bandwidth)
- gigabit ethernet

(not sure if the USB can reach USB2 speed)
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2003, 09:17:50 AM »
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But you're gonna find it hard to get a hard drive that's ultra-quiet, and even harder to get a silent PSU. They do exist though.


I don't know about that. It's easy to get quiet PSUs around here, just about every shop has them. They cost 50% - 100% more than your average noisy PSU though. I use a QTechnology Papst series PSU in my PC and it's almost noiseless (if you put your ear next to it you can hear low whirr from the fan).

Western Digital make hard drives that are pretty low-noise, and Hitachi (formerly IBM) drives are pretty silent too.

You can also put sound dampening stuff into your case. I bought some cheap engine compartment sound insulation at a car parts shop and stuck it all over the inside of my PC case and now it's very quiet, almost unhearable (my VCR makes more noise than my PC now). Just make sure you have good ventilation in your box since the sound insulation is also heat insulation (wouldn't recommend using it without a case fan).
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2003, 09:21:14 AM »
Is that an optical spdif connector I see on there? Nice!
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2003, 10:09:25 AM »
@Wayne

It’s a compelling product (IF the price is right i.e. ~$199~$299 USD) for a PowerPC based solution. Availability of AmigaOS 4.0** on this HW platform would be very nice in my POV.

**Sorry, “the name” is important for me, just as “Designed for MS Windows” logo. No flame intended…
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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2003, 10:25:24 AM »
Ultra quiet HD:
hda: ST340014A, ATA DISK drive

It's at 26dBA, barely audible.
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2003, 10:54:16 AM »
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hda: ST340014A, ATA DISK drive. It's at 26dBA, barely audible.


A little tip to people shopping for silent drives. Check all the acoustic values in the datasheet before buying. Shops often just give the sound level from the drive motor, not for the drive heads. I bought a Maxtor drive for a friend that said 24dB, but its drive heads are very noisy. The noise level of the Western Digital I bought myself was given at 28dB but its drive heads are very quiet (barly audible) so in the end it feels like it is much more silent than the Maxtor.
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2003, 11:16:13 AM »
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Sorry, ?the name? is important for me, just as ?Designed for MS Windows? logo. No flame intended?


Usually software is designed for hardware... and not the contrary....
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2003, 12:10:08 PM »
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Usually software is designed for hardware... and not the contrary....

On the contrary...

Refer to;
Source 1**

Source 2****

Secondly, I still recall “Superior MS Windows engine” AMD marketing regime from AMD K6 days...

**Also shows Linux Certification logo.
****This link shows extensive “Designed for Windows XP” logo on products…

My ASUS A7N8X class motherboard is certified for “Designed for Windows XP”.  This can be seen  here.
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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2003, 12:46:48 PM »
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 have the Seagate Barracuda V which is very quiet, and seems to perform well. Unfortunately I've yet to get other silent components like the PSU, so its efforts are mostly wasted on my setup, but I've seen the Seagate Barracuda IV in action on a PC that was completely silent.


I've Seagate Barracuda IV in my Pegasos. My PSU is not completely
silent but almost. Music for my ears when there is no noise at all
:-D
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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2003, 12:46:51 PM »
>It’s a compelling product (IF the price is right i.e. >~$199~$299 USD) for a PowerPC based solution. >Availability of AmigaOS 4.0** on this HW platform would be >very nice in my POV.

>**Sorry, “the name” is important for me, just as “Designed >for MS Windows” logo. No flame intended…

:-(

You have to explain me, please.
 

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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2003, 01:09:12 PM »
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You have to explain me, please.
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Refer to a dictionary in regards to "me".

Certifications may aid secondary line vendors in regards to marketing** and customer information purposes**. The ease of conveying the information to customers can be important.

Genesi has the potential to obtain some of the certifications listed in MSI’s website e.g.  "Linux-tested.com",  ISO-14001 and 'etc'.
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Re: The Birth of a Motherboard
« Reply #44 from previous page: October 22, 2003, 03:03:37 PM »
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I don't believe I've actually built a single computer in the last 5 years that needed more than one PCI slot and that was usually for a network card.


But some of us like to have proper sound cards and  tv cards and maybe the network card if one is not on board.I dont like onboard sound . :-)
I once had an amigaone xe but sold it .

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