Amiga 2000 3000 or 4000

[CoreAmigaFan]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the information you've given me!

Only two games that don't seem to work on the A4000. That ain't too big of a deal.

But as Dougal stated :
The A1200 and A4000 are AGA as VingtTrois said and Kickstart 3.X, so  they are even less compatible than the older Amiga's. The A4000 for some  reason is even less compatible for games than the A1200. Again Relokick  helps in both these machines.

If you want a "big box" Amiga like the A4000, you can always install  WHDLoad which installs almost any Amiga games to your HD and patches  them for compatibility with newer faster Amiga's.    

That contradicts what amigakid stated.
Me confused now.

I did gather that using WDload solves most of these issues.

[Cammy]

Cammy
You made a mistake there. Amiga 2000s can have ECS chipset as well. Most of the Amiga 2000HD had 2.x roms and ECS afaik

I made no mistake. The Amiga 2000 came out in 1986, and so was delivered with OCS until 1991 when the final revision was released with ECS and Kickstart 2.0. Since MOST A2000s were released between 1986 and 1991, not IN 1991, I was not incorrect in stating the A2000 was an OCS machine. I am aware I omitted it from the ECS list, simply to avoid redundancy and because the differences between OCS and ECS are of no consequence to games therefore hardly relevant to this topic.

[dougal]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the information you've given me!

Only two games that don't seem to work on the A4000. That ain't too big of a deal.

But as Dougal stated :
The A1200 and A4000 are AGA as VingtTrois said and Kickstart 3.X, so  they are even less compatible than the older Amiga's. The A4000 for some  reason is even less compatible for games than the A1200. Again Relokick  helps in both these machines.

If you want a "big box" Amiga like the A4000, you can always install  WHDLoad which installs almost any Amiga games to your HD and patches  them for compatibility with newer faster Amiga's.    

That contradicts what amigakid stated.
Me confused now.

I did gather that using WDload solves most of these issues.

All i can say is that i have never encountered any problems with games not being compatible once i have installed them using WHDLoad on my A4000T. The only thing i can recall not running was the Jesus on E's demo on it. Same with the A1200 (Though Jesus on E's worked fine on that).

I have loads of old 1987-1995 games installed and they all run with no problems using WHDLoad. You will want to register WHDLoad or else besides the nag you will encounter some games that dont run on an unregistered version of it.

Having said that, loading games from floppy (like you would on a stock A500) is a totally different story with the A4000 having quite a lot of compatibility problems, even more than an A1200. But WHDload solves all that.

Another thing to note is that WHDLoad may have some problems when being used on a non accelerated A500/A600/A2000/A1000 as quite a few installs require a 68020 processor and/or 2MB chip ram.

So i can conclude that if you intend to use an Amiga just for running games from floppy disk and not HD then an A500 is your best option followed by the A600 and A1200 in that order.

If you want to use WHDLoad for installing games and running them of HD then you want minimum an A1200 with a hard drive. An accelerator and some extra ram will be nice. Or you can opt for an A4000. Both have AGA which means modern games will run.

Another option for WHDLoad would be an accelerated A500/+ or A600, but accelerators for those machines are pretty rare and expensive especially for the A600 and you still won't have AGA which means no compatibility for newer AGA games. Same goes for the A3000 which is powerful enough but no AGA.

[ChaosLord]

@CoreAmigaFan

My advice is to get an A1200 or A4000.  But whichever you get, get 32MB or 64MB or 128MB ram for it.

I personally own an A3000 and an A1200 and I gave away my A4000.  My A1200+FlickerFixer is waaaay better than my A3000.

[dougal]

@CoreAmigaFan

My advice is to get an A1200 or A4000.  But whichever you get, get 32MB or 64MB or 128MB ram for it.

I personally own an A3000 and an A1200 and I gave away my A4000.  My A1200+FlickerFixer is waaaay better than my A3000.

Agreed! An A1200 (Cheap) + HD or IDE2CF (Cheap) + Extra Ram and/or Accelerator (Reasonable price) = An excellent WHDLoad machine.

A flickerfixer/Scan doubler will be nice but not necessary

[Amiga_Nut]

I made no mistake. The Amiga 2000 came out in 1986, and so was delivered with OCS until 1991 when the final revision was released with ECS and Kickstart 2.0. Since MOST A2000s were released between 1986 and 1991, not IN 1991, I was not incorrect in stating the A2000 was an OCS machine. I am aware I omitted it from the ECS list, simply to avoid redundancy and because the differences between OCS and ECS are of no consequence to games therefore hardly relevant to this topic.

You tell 'em girl! lol

[Darrin]

Just do what lots of us have done... get one of each. :-)

Only one of each?

[Darrin]

I made no mistake.

I am aware I omitted it from the ECS list.

 :p

[Cammy]

An intentional omission is not a mistake. Do we really need to keep going off-topic here, or will this be an endless cycle of accusations and explanations?

[gertsy]

As VingtTrois said. "To err is human to forgive is divine"  Or maybe that was someone else.
In any case Cammy made a mistake as did Magnetic. Both were irrelevant to the context of the Q. We're here to help each other, and are all adults.Get over it. Move on. Or I’ll dob on ya
ECS A2000s were much rarer than OCS being released over a much smaller period.
As for A1500s they were nonexistent outside of the UK, and maybe Europe?
So there!  
The only game incompatibility I’ve come across for this range of machines is for the non AGA machines from Kickstart version to kickstart version.  EG: 1.2-1.3 and 1.3 – 2.x and of course AGA v non AGA.  Sometimes some games don’t like more that 512k but these were rare and written by silly little people who smelt funny and made soft “kunigget” sounds under their breath. (very mature)
Avagoodweekend

[motrucker]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the information you've given me!

Only two games that don't seem to work on the A4000. That ain't too big of a deal.

But as Dougal stated :
The A1200 and A4000 are AGA as VingtTrois said and Kickstart 3.X, so  they are even less compatible than the older Amiga's. The A4000 for some  reason is even less compatible for games than the A1200. Again Relokick  helps in both these machines.

If you want a "big box" Amiga like the A4000, you can always install  WHDLoad which installs almost any Amiga games to your HD and patches  them for compatibility with newer faster Amiga's.    

That contradicts what amigakid stated.
Me confused now.

I did gather that using WDload solves most of these issues.

WHDLoad is a godsend for Amiga gamers. The A1200 seems to be the best all around machine to choose. Depending on where you're located, you might want to pick up an A1000 for the really old games. That way you're covered from OS 1.2/1.3 through 3.1. Around here they go really cheap.