FPGA Amiga

[Djole]

I am not talking about sales, I am talking about how it _works_.

What you are describing is a potential support problem in the future, with thousands of unhappy users. Well, their problem.

Hahaha, you seem to be multiplying yourself a thousand times, you and the other other bitter Vampire user seem to be only haters around. If the product is crap the sale numbers would show that. 99% of the users seem to be very happy about the power they can give to their a500 and a600 with a relatively cheap Vampire card. It simply doesnt have competition, its the best thing around for a500 and a600... since the introduction of the mentioned machines. The fastest you could get was 030 and those cards are very rare and old now. Comparing 20 years old 030 card with a brand new and developing 080 is just silly. Apollo team has proven they can deliver, we all would like to see a faster pace, but its developing at a acceptable speed for a small team. You seem to be hating the whole team coz they laugh at you on their forum and dont be willing to listen at any of your silly suggestions... Keep on hating, they still laugh at you...

[psxphill]

If the product is crap the sale numbers would show that.

Please explain how your theory applies to VHS and Windows?

[kolla]

Yeah, it's clearly a high priority to ridicule me

Did this guy get any help yet?
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=12046

[Chucky]

Yeah, it's clearly a high priority to ridicule me

Did this guy get any help yet?
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=12046

They are taken by surprise maybe, someone developing with a vampire?

ok!  will be quiet.  just had to..

[Darrin]

Pre-orders are closed for ultimate 64 now, ultimate64.com

How did I miss this?!  I've got a few dead C64s on a shelf.  I'll have to try and get one of the next batch made.

[ppcamiga1]

What I see here are three groups of users.

One is advanced 68k users who get that they will get better results by using 68060 with faster RAM.

Second are ppc haters who never ever admit that vampire is failure, because vampire is their last hope to kick ass ppc.

And last casual 68k users who buy vampire because it was cheaper than 68060.

[ppcamiga1]

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=12046

OMG!!!

I dont expect it is so bad. MMU not works, FPU is supr sloooow.
But this???

My advice: forget about vampire, use ppc, it is many times faster, it has working MMU, FPU, and You can execute program step by step under gdb.

[alphadec]

OMG!!!

I dont expect it is so bad. MMU not works, FPU is supr sloooow.
But this???

My advice: forget about vampire, use ppc, it is many times faster, it has working MMU, FPU, and You can execute program step by step under gdb.

That was maybe the most ediotic advice I have have read in a amiga forum, period.

[psxphill]

How did I miss this?!  I've got a few dead C64s on a shelf.  I'll have to try and get one of the next batch made.

If you want to resurrect a dead c64, you can try replacing the motherboard.

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/c64-reloaded-mk2.html

You won't have DRAM/PLA/Power supply issues anymore (plus less common issues with discreet components). Of course you could have blown a CIA, but hopefully you have enough of the chips to make one good working c64.

[Darrin]

If you want to resurrect a dead c64, you can try replacing the motherboard.

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/c64-reloaded-mk2.html

You won't have DRAM/PLA/Power supply issues anymore (plus less common issues with discreet components). Of course you could have blown a CIA, but hopefully you have enough of the chips to make one good working c64.

Oh, that looks nice.  Unfortunately the dead C64s I have were bought that way and I think the SID chips were harvested by the seller.  I "might" have one that has SID chips installed.  I have to say that I prefer the Ultimate 64 design with the built in floppyy/tape emulation and better video out option (I don't think I have many monitors/TVs with s-video).

After typing this I noticed Jens has some SID chips available and I have an old floppy emulator/freezer cartridge that came out before the Chameleon64 (MMC64?).

Talking of the Chameleon, is it still being developed?  I haven't updated mine for 2 or 3 years since I stopped receiving news from the Yahoo group.

[OlafS3]

I am not talking about sales, I am talking about how it _works_.

What you are describing is a potential support problem in the future, with thousands of unhappy users. Well, their problem.

I do not understand what you mean? It works obviously for most if not all users otherwise all sites would be flooded with angry comments. You are always desperate searching for unhappy buyers who are not there. Kolla, if you really own cards sell them, you will get the money, new happy users and you have no longer reasons to moan. Or you do not own cards and only moan.

[OlafS3]

OMG!!!

I dont expect it is so bad. MMU not works, FPU is supr sloooow.
But this???

My advice: forget about vampire, use ppc, it is many times faster, it has working MMU, FPU, and You can execute program step by step under gdb.

So you advice someone to use PPC to test and develop for Vampire?

I have a better advice... if you really want that drop ppc and use something that is many times faster and better like X64. How about that? People...

[kolla]

It works obviously for most if not all users otherwise all sites would be flooded with angry comments.

The flood gate (V1200) hasn't opened yet.


But, anyways, that is beside the point - my comment was "the one product" - the Apollo Team (well, Gunnar) has as goal that the Apollo Core shall be de-facto standard CPU architecture, "the one product", the new "base standard" for 68k Amiga.

And that is something that will not happen, too many burnt bridges, too many pissed off developers... whatever Apollo Team is trying to do, others are much more likely to come around and accomplish in better ways soon.

[OlafS3]

The flood gate (V1200) hasn't opened yet.


But, anyways, that is beside the point - my comment was "the one product" - the Apollo Team (well, Gunnar) has as goal that the Apollo Core shall be de-facto standard CPU architecture, "the one product", the new "base standard" for 68k Amiga.

And that is something that will not happen, too many burnt bridges, too many pissed off developers... whatever Apollo Team is trying to do, others are much more likely to come around and accomplish in better ways soon.

Regarding A1200... Hueh? What are you talking about?

I only know a couple of "pissed off developers" including you (3 including you). Of course there are not thousands of developers left but you seem to overestimate the numbers. Or you write which tons of 68k developers are pissed off now... and what others are you talking about? Where were those in say last 20 years? Reality is it is the only active project improving existing hardware base.

[Chucky]

I have no idea if democoders can be tagged  as "developers"  but I have been talking to many of them. (you know people that also does the demos that wins compos etc)  and still have to find ONE single person saying that he want to do something for it.

so if those can be tagged as a developer, there is quite a "few" of them


edit: but true. demos is maybe a different thing.. so...

[OlafS3]

I have no idea if democoders can be tagged  as "developers"  but I have been talking to many of them. (you know people that also does the demos that wins compos etc)  and still have to find ONE single person saying that he want to do something for it.

so if those can be tagged as a developer, there is quite a "few" of them


edit: but true. demos is maybe a different thing.. so...

what is true that in the old days sometimes demo groups used their knowledge to write games but that happened not often. For demo coders Vampire is not interesting because they want to use a underpowered defined hardware base to create something that makes people wonder how they did it. So demo coders were not pissed off by whatever, Vampire simply is not for them. Still it would be nice if some would code on it just to show the potential. Kolla talked about normal developers but i still wonder where those hide.