Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS

[XDelusion]

I noticed that!

The Intel Mac that the guy on Ebay shipped me by mistake had one, so I expected this model to have one...

No such luck!!!

I'd take time here to threaten Mr. Job's life, but...

Nature already beat me to it.

May he rest in peace.

[XDelusion]

Geez man!!!!

I left off at 2.7, now I am using 3.1 for the first time...

It's seductive. Sure, MorphOS failed us musicians, but MAN, did they really excell in all other areas!

This is NICE!!!! VERY Professional!!!!

[haywirepc]

I have been making music with computers since you could. I started with an amiga 500 and protracker.

Eventually, I moved to pc but hated windows. After I found aros I thought thank god, I can move my music production to a sane os.

Problem being, NO amiga os has the tools really necessary to create great music tracks today. Now yes some will argue you have milkytracker or noisetrekkr and so on, but those can not compete with any windows app that uses dx and vsti plug ins, and audio evolution is okay but not exactly pro tools or cubase. After trying for awhile I decided I was just limiting my tools. I couldn't getg my work done,at least not without major work arounds and alot of wasted effort, so much for coming full circle with my music projects...

So I say, leave windows or osx for your music and video production needs, and leave your amiga for everything else.

[OlafS3]

It is not helping regarding MorphOS of course but perhaps you can use Aeros

http://www.aeros-os.org/

You could ask Phoenixkonsole regarding what you need for your work

[carvedeye]

The whole situation.

A: That I first got an intel Mac, had to ship that back, then wait longer for a PPC Mac propper.
 This of course has nothing to do with the MorphOS team, but it added to my frustration seeing as I was psyched to replace my dead eMac and take advantage of all the new features of MorphOS 3.1

B: The fact that Apple insists that they are so artistic and innovative. That they sell a piece of software for musicians called Garage Band, and yet....

...with their smallest most space friendly model, which you would think would be perfect for musicians, they fail to include an audio in port. I wonder how much that saved them? 2 cents?!?!
 OS X users can of course buy a cheap USB sound card and problem solved, but still that is lame. :/

So how is all the above MorphOS fault? Surely its Apples?

[kolla]

Geez man!!!!

I left off at 2.7, now I am using 3.1 for the first time...

It's seductive. Sure, MorphOS failed us musicians, but MAN, did they really excell in all other areas!

This is NICE!!!! VERY Professional!!!!

Really? I upgraded from 2.7 to 3.1 and have not noticed anything new and revolutionary.

[Piru]

Sound recording is somewhat problematic with amigoid system, mainly because the AHI recording API is quite limited.

MorphOS USB support could always be better of course.

[haywirepc]

Thats the same kind of problems I had with AROS, if I just want to edit with a tracker (milky, octamed or noisetrekkr) its fine, so long as I have a huge selection of samples, loops and instruments already loaded on the machine.

The problems come when you want to actually record new samples, vocals, guitars, drumloops, make new instruments or edit a sound already on the system beyond the trackers built in sample editor or instrument editor.  I dumped stuff back and forth for a long time and finally just said forget it...

I still occasionally track demos on my aros box but once its a basic track, I have to use windows or linux to do the real work of making it a finished track.

I don't recommend any amigoid system for actual recording anything or editing samples/sound design work, or mastering but perhaps thats just been my experience.

[XDelusion]

I'm supposed to be able to record in AROS with my SB Live, but all it produces is noiz and not the good noiz either, just static.

Of course everyone else seems to be devoid of these issues.

I have trouble shot everything per AROS-exec, and still nothing.

So far all my best music apps remain on my classic Amiga.

OctaMED SS and HD-Rec.


Anyhow though the MorphOS team did not make Apple's hardware, I do feel that they should put MorphOS' audio, midi, wireless, and USB to the top of their priority list.
I mean if people are developing music software for their OS (audio evolution, hd-Rec, digi booster 3), and people are willing to buy these products (ok two of them are free now) not to mention pay for MorphOS, then the very least the MorphOS team could do would be to make sure that everything is fully supported, hardware, software, and all. Otherwise it's like saying,"we don't care what you write for our OS, we won't help make it work better infect we don't care how much money you put into this, it will be ready when it's ready."

Which reminds me of the AROS motto and not the motto of a commercial product that people are supposed to e convinced to buy.

All in all, the Amiga was always known as a media system, so why aren't next gen Amiga OS' putting media and creativity in the fore front?!?!?

[Digiman]

I have been making music with computers since you could. I started with an amiga 500 and protracker.

Eventually, I moved to pc but hated windows. After I found aros I thought thank god, I can move my music production to a sane os.

Problem being, NO amiga os has the tools really necessary to create great music tracks today. Now yes some will argue you have milkytracker or noisetrekkr and so on, but those can not compete with any windows app that uses dx and vsti plug ins, and audio evolution is okay but not exactly pro tools or cubase. After trying for awhile I decided I was just limiting my tools. I couldn't getg my work done,at least not without major work arounds and alot of wasted effort, so much for coming full circle with my music projects...

So I say, leave windows or osx for your music and video production needs, and leave your amiga for everything else.

I'd rather use an ST than PC :laugh1:

[Karlos]

So far all my best music apps remain on my classic Amiga.

OctaMED SS and HD-Rec.

Seriously, have you tried using the Maestrix on your MorphOS system? It might be all you need to get OctaMED SS working. It works perfectly well on my equally classic-harwareless A1 with said utility.

I'd be interested to know the results.

[XDelusion]

Yep, unlike OS 4 it crashes the system. I brought this up to the MorohOS guys before, but they don't seem to care enough to look into it.

Guess my investment into their OS don't count.

[Karlos]

Yep, unlike OS 4 it crashes the system. I brought this up to the MorohOS guys before, but they don't seem to care enough to look into it.

Well it doesn't seem likely to be caused specifically by hardware bashing, otherwise it'd never work on the A1 either. The only issue I have had with it in OS4 is that on my A1200 (ironically) the timing is sometimes out by a constant factor (not varying at least) and needs the tempo adjusting to correct. I thought this might be down to how the EClock is handled being as it's 15MHz on my BPPC rather than the ~709kHz that it is on the same machine running 3.x, but of course, the EClock rate on my A1 is 33.33MHz so probably not that either.

[Terminills]

Yep, unlike OS 4 it crashes the system. I brought this up to the MorohOS guys before, but they don't seem to care enough to look into it.

Guess my investment into their OS don't count.

MorphOS Customer Service Memo

haha I miss that site.

[Matt_H]

MorphOS USB support could always be better of course.

Is that in the pipeline?

[XDelusion]

MorphOS Customer Service Memo

haha I miss that site.

Funny funny, and sometimes that certainly seems true, but MorphOS (aside of the beef I'm having in particular) is quite polished, is pretty well documented, and I have received friendly help mostly.

Also, Fab has always seemed to listen to the users, I can say that! He's a good man.