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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Hardware News => Topic started by: asian1 on December 01, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
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ACK Control had announced PowerVixxen LT accelerator board for Classic Amiga A1200 based on Freescale MPC5200 system on chip.
This SOC is based on PowerPC 603e core (466 MHz). This board can also be used in stand alone mode. The board will support AmigaOS 4.
English Version (http://safir.amigaos.se/article_ack_eng.html)
Spanish Version (http://safir.amigaos.se/article_ack_sp.html)
Swedish Version (http://safir.amigaos.se/article_ack_sv.html)
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bring it on! :-D
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yeah that seems like a real good deal, after all, most of us have been used to running workbench on a lot less, not even on a 603 (unless you're one of the lucky beta testers of OS4), so this would obviously be a great leap forward, and let those who don't really need such a powerful system to run OS4
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An Amiga...
...I can actually afford! Say it ain't so!!!
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I'll be getting one of these!
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Oh wait, USB 1.1! What!?!? Why!?!?
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Sweet. Except saying it will be released when OS4 is released is pretty much marketing suicide in this community. ;-)
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Oh wait, USB 1.1! What!?!? Why!?!?
Simple. Its built in to the Freescale MPC5200 processor. The board has to fit inside an original Amiga 1200 case, so using extra chips is a bad thing. There is a feature summary here:
http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC5200&nodeId=0162468rH3bTdG0898
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Well USB 1.1 requires chips too, besides it's not like the chips are the size of CPU's or anything!
Not having full speed USB 2.0 will really cripple a unit like this considering that's it's main expansion slot...
Also I bet it's a 1200 add on, because it would not be fast enough to emulate 68k code efficiantly, except with old games or what ever...
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Man! What should I spend my money on? This one, the Dragon from Elbox, the Elbox Shark, the Amy'05...surely any one of these is a worthy replacement for my AmiJoe
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(oh, did I mention B-I-G and "Two weeks!" and "When it's DONE! :-D " ?) :roll:
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Despite my complaints, I'm pretty sure on this one so long as it isn't bogus.
It's all I can afford.
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Poster: XDelusion Posted: 2005/12/2 20:59:24
Despite my complaints, I'm pretty sure on this one so long as it isn't bogus.
It's all I can afford.
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Aw I was just kidding. I reckon this one will at least see a limited release (at least).
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@ XDelusion
Well USB 1.1 requires chips too, besides it's not like the chips are the size of CPU's or anything!
This chip has the USB controller built in. That's the point, pretty much everything that requires extra support chips is built-in. Following the link instead of blindly arguing would of made this evident to you.
Also I bet it's a 1200 add on, because it would not be fast enough to emulate 68k code efficiantly, except with old games or what ever...
It's an A1200 add-on because it's an A1200 add-on. Some of us prefer the orignial Amigas. Also as a nice bonus you get access to the actual, real-life AGA chipset rather than having to try and emulate it.
It should outpace an 040 easily, even the crippled BlizzardPPC and CSPPC cards can do that. And once again, if you had bothered to actually read the information presented to you (you know the stuff you're commenting on), you'd know it also can run as a stand-alone board.
(Not that being attached to an A1200 would change that as the 020 on the A1200 would be disabled by this card, just like with a Blizzard)
People have taken the time to bring you this information, at the very least you could read it properly.
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The Event:
:quickdraw:
Shark Vs PowerVixxen Vs Amy 05 Vs Amiga 1 Shootout.
The Time: err ... When OS4 Comes out.
:roll:
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So that's what they mean by integrated...
Anyhow, just because the things runs without a 1200 doesn't mean it will do the emulation well at those speeds, hence the NEED for the 1200.
Don't get pissed because I'm pointing out a possability, it's just a material object anyhow.
I'm pointing out that for those who don't have a 1200 to hook this up to, they may not be so happy as opposed to actually having a 1200 hooked up to it.
I'm interested in what it means by having the sound combined with the paula chip set, etc.
And yes, I'm quite sure this will blow away a 040, just don't expect to be doing any MPEG editing or what ever on here...
...it would work, but it would probably take a while, but who knows, maybe that CPU can do more than what I realize.
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A 460MHz 603e based processor should be able to emulate a 68040 pretty damn well, probably one at around 100MHz speeds even, maybe 200MHz depending on the quality of emulation. How is the state of AmigaOS 4's JIT emulator anyway? Petunia, that's the name.
As for the integrated Paula sound, I expect that it is an audio input header on the card that you connect to the A1200 motherboard's audio headers, or outputs.
If you want to do hardcore video editing, you'd be buying a Mac or PC anyway.
You'd attach the A1200 if you wanted to run software that required AGA. Personally, I'd keep the two things separate, new computer for new stuff, old computer for memorable stuff.
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How is the state of AmigaOS 4's JIT emulator anyway? Petunia, that's the name.
It kicks ass ;-)
As for the integrated Paula sound, I expect that it is an audio input header on the card that you connect to the A1200 motherboard's audio headers, or outputs.
You don't even need to do that. These pins are present on the A1200 expansion slot:
146: AUDIO GND Audio Ground
147: AUDIO L Left Audio
148: AUDIO R Right Audio
Presumably the PowerVixxen mixes these lines with its own audio and routes it to its own output plug.
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@XDelusion
With the PowerVixxen in an A1200, the only 68k processor in the system is a 14Mhz 68EC020. The BlizzardPPC cards are less than half the speed of the PowerVixxen card, and can emulate 68k code many, many times faster than a 14Mhz 68EC020. The PowerVixxen will be several times faster again. There simply is no speed advantage to attaching an A1200 for executing 68k code.