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Title: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: BigBenAussie on April 08, 2010, 07:41:37 AM
Commodore Amigo computer (http://www.commodoreusa.net/amigo.html)

(http://www.commodoreusa.net/i//DSC_2628_2.jpg)

I believe, the specs are.....

CPU         Fanless Xcore86 1Ghz “Device on Chip”
BIOS         AMI BIOS
RAM         512MB DDR2 onboard
Storage      1 IDE for 2.5 inch internal, 2 x SD external
LAN         10/100 Mbps r6040 NIC
WIFI         Optional WIFI module available (802.11 b/g)
             3G Network Optional 3G module
Video         Integrated 1280 x 1024 with 128 MB dedicated video RAM
             VGA out, Composite out and SVHS out
Audio         Hi Definition Audio, Stereo speaker, Digital Array Mic
             Audio Jack Audio in and out
I/O         Enhanced IDE Interface x1, USB 2.0 x 2, RS232 x 1
OS          Microsoft Windows XP, Linux
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Cammy on April 08, 2010, 07:44:58 AM
Nice, no Windows keys!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: XDelusion on April 08, 2010, 07:49:11 AM
Ha ha, very nice! I'm sure it's got junk guts, but if the price range were right and it was Haiku/Aros friendly, I'd just have to snag one or two of these!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on April 08, 2010, 07:56:37 AM
It doesn't have DVI or HDMI out. Bad move.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: clusteruk on April 08, 2010, 08:02:21 AM
Sorry better off with a 1.6ghz net book for $300 running Aros.

To slow for a new computer, people moaned about the Atom not being quick enough and this has much less performance.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Cammy on April 08, 2010, 08:18:25 AM
I have to agree with that, running Aros on a netbook is great! It's portable and super quick with only 1.6Ghz. It's definitely my fastest Amiga. I call mine the A1600. You can get them pretty cheap from Alibaba, here are some links for anyone who wants a cheap, cool netbook that runs Aros and Ubuntu Netbook Remix and probably other OSs too.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/244172832/mini_laptop_10_2_laptop_10.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/276853748/NET_BOOK_NOTEBOOK_PC_CHEAPEST_LAPTOPS_.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/296408385/10_2_Inch_Mini_Laptop_Netbook.html

If you shop around you can find them even cheaper, I did. And they're not that small either, here's me with mine - http://i46.tinypic.com/2envwx3.jpg

They're not stuck with some ugly PC company's name or badge on them either, just that Intel Atom sticker which you can peel off.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: dentunes on April 08, 2010, 08:18:29 AM
2 SD card slots? RS-232? VGA only? SIM Card option? Composite and S VHS?

Seriously? In 2010?

My suggestions - the second SD card slot could have been Express card slot. RS-232 could have been Atari Joystick adapter for retro games. HDMI only. You can get DVI and the rest from that now. That way you could also have digital audio out.

I have to ask - is this a joke? I know it is on their website though seriously, you have to question it.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Cammy on April 08, 2010, 08:25:28 AM
No no no, it doesn't even have S-Video! Just Composhite and VGA.

It's just another old zero-footprint PC being rebadged by Commodore.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: CommodoreMan on April 08, 2010, 08:45:32 AM
If they were smart they would have prefigured them with a good Commodore 64 emulator, and added ports to hook up the commodore drives and joysticks,  I MIGHT have bought one then !!  LOL  The composite out is kinda neat for going retro with it but thats about it....
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: XDelusion on April 08, 2010, 08:56:19 AM
@Cammy: Aghh, OK, so your Netbook uses the GMA 950 Chipset for video. Wonderful! I have that in my Toshiba and I've been very impressed. Though, I presume it's only supported in Vesa mode, thus allowing you to only enter AROS in 24bit video mode with fixed resolution correct?

Also, does AROS support the on-board audio, usb, and networking?

Anyhow, Where are you guys seeing the specs on the CPU speed? All I see are pics mostly.

In regards to the video output, I do believe that most modern TV's have RCA Video, and VGA inputs. At least mine does. Also, considering that it's probably using some sort of Intel Chip for it's video, I'd wager a guess that it's about on par with a basic GeForce 6 in which case I don't see how how having HDMI would serve anyone much over VGA. Besides, what are we doing in AROS right now that needs to be in such high resolutions? The video doesn't even work right in AROS to begin with. Granted, all this will be fleshed out in time and hopefully not left in the state that BeOS was left in, but still.

I do feel that they could have went with S-Video instead of the Composite output, but oh well, as I said I have VGA input so I'm good.

Anyhow, I don't even know why I'm defending this computer. As I said before it's prolly filled with junk components and going for more than I would be willing to pay for, but I DO love the looks and the retro appeal! I mean at least it's a real product and not just a mythological machine that exists only in poster form.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: skurk on April 08, 2010, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: Cammy;552049
Nice, no Windows keys!


Well, at least on one of the pics ;)

I still call bullshit on all this Commodore USA stuff, though.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: BigBenAussie on April 08, 2010, 09:53:22 AM
@skurk
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I still call bullshit on all this Commodore USA stuff, though.
What do you mean? Do you doubt it is legit? They're selling the Commodore Phoenix right now. I've spoken to the owner, and have posted his extensive technology background before. Don't be surprised if you see an actual Commodore advertisment some time soon.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: XDelusion on April 08, 2010, 10:07:34 AM
Aghh ha! I see the specs now. For what ever reason, the text wasn't showing up before!

1Ghz is kind of weak, unless of course this will be selling for around $200, then it wouldn't be half bad, besides you can still emulate Amiga at decent speeds with 1Ghz...

...well in Windows. On AROS UAE still has jumpy sound and all that and I'm running at 2.4Ghz, non emulated.

On the upside: 128Mb of Dedicated Video Ram, not shared!  GOOD MOVE!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: countzero on April 08, 2010, 10:11:25 AM
Quote from: Fanscale;552053
It doesn't have DVI or HDMI out. Bad move.

what for :angry: you ain't gonna watch blue ray or HD video on this baby anyway :afro:
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: dentunes on April 08, 2010, 10:21:07 AM
DVI to plug it into my DVI only LCD monitor.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: skurk on April 08, 2010, 10:29:55 AM
Quote from: dentunes;552076
DVI to plug it into my DVI only LCD monitor.


(http://www.gttkc.com/shop/images/VGA-TO-DVI-ADAPTER.jpg)
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: recidivist on April 08, 2010, 10:41:53 AM
Wel the prices are listed,and may I  say,OUCH!
Looks like $475 to $1295 !!??!!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: haywirepc on April 08, 2010, 11:08:54 AM
I hate to burst any bubbles but...
 
First, who is commodore usa? This company is like AMIGA INC in that they have no relation to original commodore except perhaps to own the rights to use the name "Commodore USA"
 
They have no relation whatever to original commodore. This is just a couple of people (or more likely one guy) who thought hey I can make a buck if I register the name commodore usa and there is likely no one left to sue me for using that name or trademark.
 
The commodore USA phoenix is simply the cybernet zpc, which has been around for literally years and years, simply rebranded.
 
This "AMIGO" is simply the xsurf pc, announced some time ago, rebranded again. Apparently this "Commodore USA" is just some guy buying already existing all in one keyboard type pc's and rebranding them.
Calling them a commodore pc is ridiculous. They have nothing to do with the commodore brand, lineage or history. They are already existing products you can get much less expensively elsewhere.
 
Again sorry to burst anyone's bubble if they are excited about this stuff, but I thought someone should actually mention the truth.
 
Steven
 
EDIT - Sorry I didn't read this thread thoroughly enough, cammy did mention the truth. This is bunk lets make a buck from stupid people who
don't know we just rebranded existing products. Its ridiculous.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: BigBenAussie on April 08, 2010, 11:16:53 AM
@haywirepc
Honestly, how would you expect any company after the Commodore bust up, to be in any way related to the original Commodore? Would they have to be related to Jack Tramiel or something?

When the Commodore Phoenix was announced, there was a thread here about what it was, and it is hardly a secret.

Buying pre-existing all-in-one-keyboard hardware to fill a retro niche isn't such a bad idea. At least the hardware isn't vapour. Would it suit your sensibilities better if it was instead conceived of from a reference design like a lot of other hardware.

I think the expectations a lot of people express are a little high, and a little naive, because no company short of a multi-national could pull it off, and even then they would be beset by the same criticisms. You can't please everybody.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: dentunes on April 08, 2010, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: skurk;552078
(http://www.gttkc.com/shop/images/VGA-TO-DVI-ADAPTER.jpg)


Fair enough.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: BigBenAussie on April 08, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
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Wel the prices are listed,and may I say,OUCH!
Looks like $475 to $1295 !!??!!
Just noting that you are mentioning the prices to the Commodore Phoenix, not the new Commodore Amigo, that is the subject of this thread.
I don't know what price it will be but I would expect the Amigo to cost around the $300US mark or lower. Yes, you can get a netbook for that.....yes probably even a Commodore netbook or tablet for that amount soonish. It is what it is, and now you know.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: countzero on April 08, 2010, 11:28:32 AM
actually this could be good if,

it had Amiga compatible joystick ports,
Full aros support (gift some machines to AROS devs)
below 300$ mark.

optional goodies :
Boot to VICE option, one of the SD slots act as 1541
Amiga keys (and proper 3 finger salute rebooting)
maybe direct boot to UAE ?
etc ...
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Arkhan on April 08, 2010, 11:29:04 AM
it looks like a neat little thing to putz around on.

depending on the durability, it might even be a nice portable thing to use for live music play instead of a laptop...
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: dentunes on April 08, 2010, 11:31:21 AM
Without a screen though it is stuck as a desktop unit. If netbooks didn't exist maybe though it doesn't make sense. Who would actually buy one?
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: som99 on April 08, 2010, 11:57:05 AM
Haha I have to taugh a little ;) Sorry but at their page they got more pictures of it and all pictures but one has a WINDOWS KEY! Coulden't they photoshop the key as they did on the other picture ;)
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: tone007 on April 08, 2010, 01:00:28 PM
Already got one, and it's probably faster!

(http://jungle.net/tone/a200.jpg)
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: cgutjahr on April 08, 2010, 01:26:42 PM
Quote from: BigBenAussie;552071
I've spoken to the owner, and have posted his extensive technology background before. Don't be surprised if you see an actual Commodore advertisment some time soon.

Do you realize that their courrent marketing texts are just stolen from Apple's web site?

http://www.apple.com/macmini/design.html
http://www.commodoreusa.net/Commodore_Phoenix_computer.html

To add insult to injury, they use pretty much identical text to praise both the "Phoenix" and the "Amigo".

Wake up, please.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Pete_Noir on April 08, 2010, 01:32:30 PM
On the bottom of their page:

"Amiga is the trademark of  Hyperion Entertainment, registered in the U.S. and other countries..."

Umm.. no it's not! And why mention Amiga, they're not selling anything with that name even mentioned as far as I can see..
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Daff on April 08, 2010, 01:46:29 PM
It's just ridiculous !
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Pete_Noir on April 08, 2010, 01:51:45 PM
But can it run Snowman Maker and Telnet Force??! That's the real question!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: som99 on April 08, 2010, 02:02:05 PM
Mabe I should build a omap 3.5 into a keyboard and call that an Amigaz ;)
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Arkhan on April 08, 2010, 02:03:15 PM
Quote from: dentunes;552092
Without a screen though it is stuck as a desktop unit. If netbooks didn't exist maybe though it doesn't make sense. Who would actually buy one?


people who love wedgeboards :)


or need to save space.  get a nice bigass LCD and use that, takes up the space of a keyboard but is the whole puter!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Pete_Noir on April 08, 2010, 02:14:29 PM
Ah, no need to panic, their latest product is indeed fully Snowman Maker & Telnet Force compatible:

(http://www.peteluckhurst.com/shit/snowman.jpg)

(yes, I have too much time on my hands today)
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: skurk on April 08, 2010, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: BigBenAussie;552071
@skurk

What do you mean? Do you doubt it is legit?


Yes.

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They're selling the Commodore Phoenix right now.


Where?  And who told you?

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I've spoken to the owner


..of the commodoreusa.net domain?  That could be anyone - hell, it could be me pulling your leg, for all that you know.

Quote
Don't be surprised if you see an actual Commodore advertisment some time soon.


All right, I'll be waiting right here, on the edge of my chair. :-)

Oh, and please don't take this as a personal attack.  It's not.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: BigBenAussie on April 08, 2010, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: Pete_Noir;552111
On the bottom of their page:

"Amiga is the trademark of  Hyperion Entertainment, registered in the U.S. and other countries..."

Umm.. no it's not! And why mention Amiga, they're not selling anything with that name even mentioned as far as I can see..


They intend to sell "Amiga Forever". It is listed as a product they want to sell, but it is unavailable at the moment.

I believe the idea was to clarify, in order to avoid any legal unpleasantness, that Commodore USA do not own the Amiga trademark, or more to the point, the AmigaOS trademark. They are not selling anything that can be construed as a native "Amiga" operating system, but just an emulator. In attempting to clear that up, they went a little too far and incorrectly(?) attributed the "Amiga" trademark to Hyperion. Should the real owner front up I am sure they will happily change it.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: dreamcast270mhz on April 08, 2010, 03:29:57 PM
Reality Check:

PCs aren't Amigas, this is a POS and AROS is a pile of crap atm, has too many Linux influences and can't run anything good. Now the Atom is okay, its just underpowered to keep it efficient and cool, but I hate all these new devices, they're castrating an old laptop and squeezing it down into a small, crammed device that my iBook runs circles around
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: BigBenAussie on April 08, 2010, 03:33:01 PM
@skurk

Of course you are entitled to your opinion of its legitimacy or existence. You can also go on to believe that because you've never seen an X1000 or a SAM460 that they doesn't exist either, despite people telling you that they do, and they are all merely a scam.

I hope you don't take this personally, but certain people in this community act like beaten dogs who no longer trust anyone, and anything you tell them is met with derision. With all the crap that's gone on that it is understandable, but there comes a point where you should just get over it.

The Commodore USA owner is Barry Altman. For some reason his bio has been removed from the menu, probably due to clutter, but here is the page anyway. http://www.commodoreusa.net/profile.html

He seems to be a reputable business man, rather than someone who just walked off the street. I have posted a bio before but I can't find it right now. Will post it when I find it.
edit: it's on another site, and not entirely related to this topic so here is the quote.
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The owner has heaps of engineering and computer knowledge and founded a major satellite cable hardware company in the 80s with hundreds of site locations. He used Commodore64s to run his multi-million dollar business back then and became quite enamored with them. Later, he even used the Video Toaster for overlays on some broadcasts. He used Apples in his businesses for quite a while.... and also used these Cybernet All-In-One PCs because it reminded him of the Commodore64 he enjoyed and loved, and he is passionate about it and wants to share that Commodore adoration with the world. His family also owned major shopping complexes in New York and has a history in retail. I may be a little off on the bio, as it is from memory, but you get the gist.


He told me he used to run one of his first businesses on Commodore64s and loves them. He is relatively unfamiliar with our world of Amigadom, but seems willing to cater where possible.

This Engadget article is by no means presented as proof of anything, but I thought you might find it interesting.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/the-commodore-name-licensed-again-for-a-line-of-keyboard-pcs/
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With any luck, later this year the company's monumental advertising campaign will have had its effect ("something like you've never seen in your life," as Altman described it to us on the phone this afternoon)

He told me the kind of ad campaign he had planned. If it is a 30 second ad that I think it will be, the first 5 seconds, you'll think you've seen it before, the next 10 seconds you'll get a slight surprise but still think you'll know where it is headed because you'll have seen something like it before. The last 15 seconds you'll be WTF....how did they do that? If it is what he told me, they'll be talking about this in advertising circles for years. It's either going to be cringe-worthy or shocking depending on how it is done, but definitely will get people's attention that Commodore is back.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: whabang on April 08, 2010, 03:43:42 PM
Why won't they just let it die?! >.<

This is basically a re-branded surf-board, with performance comparable to a 800 MHz PIII (which is more than enough for surfing, but not really impressive).

Unless the whole "built-into-a-keyboard" thing makes you tick, you'd be better off with a cheap netbook.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: VingtTrois on April 08, 2010, 04:03:03 PM
Another a copy:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/4194450287_7328d986a4.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/4194450287_7328d986a4.jpg)

Decembre 2009.

http://www.blogeee.net/2009/12/gecko-surfboard-un-autre-pc-integre-au-clavier/

Thanks you YODA (http://www.amigaimpact.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8412&forum=7)

Definitively a FAKE ?!?!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: BigBenAussie on April 08, 2010, 04:13:57 PM
@VingtTrois
Thanks... Seems I was way off on the price.
Expect around $100US without Windows.
That seems like a great price!!!!

No-one was under any illusions that Commodore USA had created this from scratch were they? Especially after re-branding the CybernetPC.
http://www.slashgear.com/norhtec-gecko-surfboard-99-linux-pc-in-a-keyboard-1766281/

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Definitively a FAKE ?!?!
Unless your definition of fake is different to mine, something that exists, is readily available and is re-branded, is not fake.
This is no different to rebadging done by other PC vendors.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: tone007 on April 08, 2010, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: dreamcast270mhz;552134
but I hate all these new devices


Your hate is your weakness, and shall be your downfall!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Karlos on April 08, 2010, 05:16:24 PM
No DVI? That's a bit of an oversight.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: skurk on April 08, 2010, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: BigBenAussie;552136
@skurk

Of course you are entitled to your opinion of its legitimacy or existence. You can also go on to believe that because you've never seen an X1000 or a SAM460 that they doesn't exist either, despite people telling you that they do, and they are all merely a scam


Well, I haven't seen Japan either, but somehow I know that one exists :-)

It's just the whole package that I'm not buying.  Unprofessional website, domain registered March 17th this year and expires next year, anonymous registration, cut-and-paste text from other websites, poorly photoshopped images, stolen images from other websites... I could go on, but in short this just smells like a troll/prank.

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I hope you don't take this personally, but certain people in this community act like beaten dogs who no longer trust anyone, and anything you tell them is met with derision. With all the crap that's gone on that it is understandable, but there comes a point where you should just get over it.


Of course.  I'm a beaten dog as everyone else here, but I the only one I don't trust is Amiga Inc, obviously.  I have faith in Hyperion, A-Eon, and others that at least pretend to be professional.

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The Commodore USA owner is Barry Altman. For some reason his bio has been removed from the menu, probably due to clutter, but here is the page anyway. http://www.commodoreusa.net/profile.html


You see, since I think this is fake (or at least something very unserious) I don't take anything on the website for granted.  Everything could be made up.

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He told me the kind of ad campaign he had planned. If it is a 30 second ad that I think it will be, the first 5 seconds, you'll think you've seen it before, the next 10 seconds you'll get a slight surprise but still think you'll know where it is headed because you'll have seen something like it before. The last 15 seconds you'll be WTF....how did they do that? If it is what he told me, they'll be talking about this in advertising circles for years. It's either going to be cringe-worthy or shocking depending on how it is done, but definitely will get people's attention that Commodore is back.


He-he, well, it's my thoughts against yours, so I'll keep my pessimism to myself and believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Methuselas on April 08, 2010, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: Cammy;552056

If you shop around you can find them even cheaper, I did. And they're not that small either, here's me with mine - http://i46.tinypic.com/2envwx3.jpg

They're not stuck with some ugly PC company's name or badge on them either, just that Intel Atom sticker which you can peel off.


Cammy, is that Hal Jordan on your wall? :)


@ Skurk,

Actually, as of 2008, Japan has become entirely virtual. It exists, but only in the virtual world. The real Japan is actually the 52nd state of America, right after the 51st State, the United Kingdom.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Hell Labs on April 08, 2010, 11:06:44 PM
The UK isn't a country...


Honesty I've no idea about this C= USA stuff. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the fireworks.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: save2600 on April 08, 2010, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: Methuselas;552171
Actually, as of 2008, Japan has become entirely virtual. It exists, but only in the virtual world. The real Japan is actually the 52nd state of America, right after the 51st State, the United Kingdom.
Where does Puerto Rico fit in all of this? I thought it was the 51st state?  :lol:

And we all know the Estados Unidos is really just a colony of England anyway  ;)   lol

@Hell Labs: Most of us Americans don't get the concept of a U.K.: Wales, Scotland, England, Ireland - et al. They're just a couple of islands "over there". lol  

It's like when I moved to WI from IL. I'd tell people where I was from (Libertyville) and they couldn't perceive where I was talking about. But if you tell them Chicago... OH, OKAY!  lol
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Hell Labs on April 08, 2010, 11:26:04 PM
Oh, I've noticed.
"Player has joined from country United Kingdom" *eye twitch*

".co.uk" *throbbing vain in forehead*

Union Flag with the word "England" on it *Angry German kid like moment*

I seriously want Complete and total de-unification, just so people don't mix it up - No other reason at all. On the other hand, watching an American tourist giggle and go "oh your funny english accents" in a pub in Glasgow was probably the biggest amount of schadenfreude I've ever had.

P.S Don't say "Colony of England".
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: save2600 on April 08, 2010, 11:35:47 PM
Bah... England/Englaland/Albion/Britain/Great Britain - it's all the same  :rolling:
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: persia on April 09, 2010, 03:53:05 AM
Blake's poem
  And did those feet in ancient time.
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land

- William Blake
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: persia on April 09, 2010, 04:20:57 AM
Most people just put the computer behind the monitor or under it or whatever.  The problem with a wedge is that it needs to physically connected to something whilst most keyboards today don't need to be physically connected to anything.  You can use your big arse TV as a monitor have no wires between it and the keyboard.  

Who wants to clutter up their lounge room with stupid wires?

Quote from: Arkhan;552119
people who love wedgeboards :)


or need to save space.  get a nice bigass LCD and use that, takes up the space of a keyboard but is the whole puter!
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Cammy on April 09, 2010, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Methuselas;552171
Cammy, is that Hal Jordan on your wall? :)


Yeah, it's Hal with himself posessed by Parallax behind him, drawn by my friend Ethan Van Sciver. Beside that are posters of Hellboy, Batman & Robin by Jim Lee, and Supergirl by Adam Hughes.
Title: Re: Commodore USA introduces new Amigo computer!!
Post by: Arkhan on April 09, 2010, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: persia;552372
Most people just put the computer behind the monitor or under it or whatever.  The problem with a wedge is that it needs to physically connected to something whilst most keyboards today don't need to be physically connected to anything.  You can use your big arse TV as a monitor have no wires between it and the keyboard.  

Who wants to clutter up their lounge room with stupid wires?


People who love wedgeboards, are also used to wires, unless you have a wireless A1200 or C64 in your lounge!