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Video: AROS 68K Booting
« on: November 18, 2010, 09:01:36 AM »
quick and dirty... the video codec is a mess...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trPTaLJq1mM

The periodic "fuzz" is due to the compression, the actual graphical glitches should be familiar to Amiga users as what happens when a games does something weird (often unrecoverable)... The disk unfortunately has read errors so I stopped the video, but it is still great to see.

This is our first step away from the tyranny of Amia Inc. :)
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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2010, 10:29:25 AM »
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Thought my medication has screwed up me eyes there for a moment, still a long way to go by the looks of it, but impressive non-the less... :)
I love the fact that in future, when someone asks where to find a kickstart ROM or a Workbench disk... Instead of suggesting eBay or illicit google searches... I can just point them to AROS :)

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2010, 11:05:47 AM »
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You won't even have to do that since we can hope AROS+WinUAE bundles that will just work out of the box.


Toni will ensure that :)

But this is also important for users with Amiga hardware! (be that original or one of the FPGA clones)

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Now you'll be able to tell you friend: "just download WinUAE here, it just works out of the box" and won't have to tell him.. "actually it's not that easy, you have to get a ROM, but I can give it to you.. then you need to get the WB disks,...", answer: "oh, nevermind, that's too complicated :("


Sadly that is currently an all too common scenario :(

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2010, 02:11:01 PM »
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Does this mean we could have a new ROM chip fror classics, with new stuff built in?
Yup. Without copyright issues too.

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2010, 02:39:37 PM »
Piru is quite right, space is an issue. But there are options being explored... I'm sure he would love to see the discussion on the Dev list ;) ;) hehehe...

Also I believe that All Amiga's apart from some early ones can actually support 1MB ROMs...

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 02:50:42 PM »
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Can you not just put the absolute minimum required, including disk IO support into the ROM and then load all the additional kickstart resources from the HD?

Obviously this assumes you have a classic with some sort of hard disk / CF / whatever.
That's easy and will probably be used by most people... But Toni and Jason both want to see just how close to the original ROMs they can get, for maximum possible compatibility :)

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 03:15:42 PM »
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I think I'm out of luck with a 4000T.  If I remember correctly, these are extremely hard to upgrade to 1MB.  The extra lines aren't anywhere near the ROM chips.

I do have a hard drive and Deneb with plenty of flash so it's not a big loss.
With an A4000 you would use diskbased modules anyway... Only a minimal ROM required :)

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 11:32:50 AM »
My second AROS 68K video... oh yeah!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz1dyXMdtNE

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 07:10:40 PM »
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Nice video!
At least now it can list files, and has more error requesters, which is a good thing because it shows some progress. :)

Keep the videos coming!
Nothing very interesting... but some stuff actually working :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0XT-nrkB8s

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 09:11:38 PM »
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@bloodline
nice but one thing struck me as I watched your last video;
I do not think the shell stopped working, seems to me the issue was the about program was not releasing the shell.
Misa thinks you shoulda tried with "run" or "runback" if these commands exist on aros:rtfm:
Yeah, I was a spanner... as soon as I had stopped the record, I remembered that programs don't automatically detach from the CLI :) It's been awhile since AmigaOS/AROS was my main OS :p

I should have ¨run¨ the about program :)

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 09:43:20 PM »
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What about doing some "relabel dh0: workbench" so that you don't get these "please insert volume workbench" anymore ? ;)


Actually the hard drive is called Workbench... no idea why it keeps asking me for the volume... I'm guessing some parts are missing from the DOS library.

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Btw, what are you exactly demonstrating on these videos ?

 - (CBM) WB3.x on AROS ROM, right ?


no, this is all AROS... just waiting on Jason getting everything needed in ROM before we can boot WB3.0 :)

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 10:16:41 PM »
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Ok :)

Mind posting your config file somewhere btw ? Wish I could give it a try :)
I'll upload an archive of my config + roms and disks ASAP :)

But UAE set up as an A1200 + 4meg fast should be able to run the 68k nightly (aros.org/downloads) just fine for you.

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 09:06:42 AM »
Yet another Video... stuff actually works now :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNZYK5byx6c

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 11:38:15 AM »
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Nothing like the real AmigaOS.The backporting of Aros to 68k shows how Aros is slow as any other actual operating system, sure it flys on super duper multi GHZ monster but is not as responsiveness as origunal OS on very, very limited hadrware.AmigaOS classic still rules!!!!
Yeah, it's dog slow... But remember that this is the quick and dirty hack and slash just to get it running... Both Toni and Jason have a lot more work to do to get it up to speed. Progress has been surprisingly swift!

AROS will always be a bit slower than AmigaOS on basic system, as AmigaOS was written in assembly and AROS in C... But there is a hell of a optimisation that Toni can do on the drivers yet! :)

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Re: Video: AROS 68K Booting
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2010, 12:22:21 AM »
Now for a video of Wanderer (Workbench clone) running... this video is so boring I forgive anyone for wanting me dead after watching it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9nqW-5I9Ag

I hate Youtube... it's 30 seconds too long:

http://www.cutiemish.com/Wanderer.avi
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