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Offline WolfToTheMoon

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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« on: March 24, 2011, 03:28:13 PM »
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That's why I'm looking into Freescale's new P5 processors. They're 64bit and some offer dual cores.

Unless they're significantly cheaper then PA6T all they're good for is looking at them :lol:
 

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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 04:06:14 PM »
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We're not sure what the prices will be like. And they have some disadvantages when compared to the PA6T (no Altivec until the next revision, less PCIe lanes), but they do have a faster clock speed (2.2 Ghz).
But the main advantage is that the P5 is just going into production and the PA6T is out of production. A-eon has already mentioned the e5500 cored processors as a possible successor to their current processor.


Yeah I know, I was midly joking in my original reply :)

The problem with e5500 cored CPUs is quantity. The smallest order if I remember correctly is 20 000 units. If A-eon goes and uses these processors in a hypothetical successor to the X1000 and they buy a few hundreds of them then the final product will be no cheaper then the X1000 as the CPU will again be very expensive(if I remember correctly, Trevor said that the PA6T is around 450-500 $).
 

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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 07:43:52 PM »
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However, right now the P5010 and P5020 are some of the most powerful PPCs available.
And the future T5020 and T5040 will feature AltiVec instructions, 2.5 Ghz operation (or higher), more cores, and possibly some additional changes.
And then there's APM's Mamba and the other two unnamed processors listed on their roadmap after Titan.

The key issue, IMHO, is not performance, but price/performance ratio and price in absolute terms.
The future T5020 or T5040 may indeed prove to be very fast but if they're too expensive then it's quite pointless. A X1000 succesor should be (considerably)cheaper to make sense, IMHO, and ensure bigger production run.

I wonder if A-eon could achieve better economies of scale to sell both MOS and AOS4 systems. I guess as long as ben hermans is involved that is out of the question probably.