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Offline Wibbly

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Re: Someone spell it out for me, A1 questions
« on: August 15, 2004, 04:59:02 PM »
Most modern computers require emulation in order to use programs made a long time ago (I need DosBox to play a couple of old MSDOS games on WinXP Pro for instance).

I think keeping your old Amiga, or using emulation is the best way to play the old games. The AmigaOne is so vastly overpriced it's just not funny, especially as the technology it boasts is so horribly outdated. AGP 2x? I've been using AGP 2x and faster boards for almost 6 years. Ati Radeon 7000 32Mb? Ancient technology compared to todays 9800, x800s and Geforce 5950s and 6800s. The price of the registered 512Mb memory (what is it PC133 I think? or is it PC2100, either way, OLD) is crazy, you can pick up PC3200 512Mb for less than a 3rd of what Eyetech are asking. Soundblaster 5.1 (sigh, where's the Audigy 2?) And then A PPC 800Mhz. Good grief. You can get a much more powerful G4 Laptop for half the price  of an AmigaOne.

I'd like a PCI card with the ECS and AGA chipset on it, and maybe a 68000 (for compatibility) and an 060 onboard. Throw in a PPC slot, so I can chuck in a G4. Then I could Dual Boot XP Pro and MorphOS or OS3.9
The PPC slot isn't a must have though, because I'd only have that to run any new Amiga games if they ever came out, and to be honest, they probably won't touch the sort of things I'm playing on my PC. WinUAE allows me to run a crazy fast 68040, that'll run almost any 680*0 game I throw at it.  (Quake, Genetic Species, AB3D2 etc. run WAY better on UAE than they do on my PPC A1200)

I'm certainly not paying for an AmigaOne, I've looked at Eyetechs specs, and what you get is ancient poop. Unless they release a realisticly priced motherboard for it (which based on the fact that half the components are like 6 year old technology, means I wouldn't pay any more than 25 quid)to which I could add my own components (if it HAD to be a radeon 7000, I'd get one off ebay for 10 quid), then my Amiga'ing is definitely going to be WinUAE based.

Finally a new Amiga. And once again, it's overpriced and outdated. When I bought my first Amiga, it seemed WAY more advanced then any other computer out there. And it wasn't unreasonably priced against the competition. Seems to me that Amiga Inc. and Eyetech are trying to follow every other company and kill Amiga off.
I'll stick to WinUAE and OS3.1 (I'm not paying stupid money for OS3.9. I bought enough Amigas and upgrades for them thanks. Dam OS should be free by this point) :pissed:


AmigaOne-XE 7451@800MHz G4 power system   1399.95..... LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Source=Arianet (prices inc. VAT)-

Arianet Cybercase black/sil 420W - £21.74
Gigabyte GA-K8NS (Nforce3 250) - £64.63
AMD Athlon64 3400 RETAIL - £199.69
Kingmax "Hardcore" 512Mb PC4000 DDR - £77.55
Kingmax "Hardcore" 512Mb PC4000 DDR - £77.55
(that's 1Gb Total)
MSI GeForce 6800GT 256MB DDR3 - £316.08
(A brand new Radeon 7000 with 64Mb on this site btw costs £24.68 inclusive)
Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS - £85.78
160G Maxtor DMax+9 SATA150/7200 8MB - £62.86
160G Maxtor DMax+9 SATA150/7200 8MB - £62.86
(that's 320Gb Total)
Sony DWU-18A DVDRW± OEM Silver - £45.83
Samsung 52x52x32 CDRW - £18.21
3½" Floppy Drive - £5.86
Generic Multimedia Keyboard SIlver - £4.70
A4Tech Infra-Red Wireless Mouse - £8.23
Microsoft Windows XP Pro OEM - £99.88

That's £1151.45. That leaves me enough change for a 19" monitor and some kick ass speakers

19" Arianet Digital Monitor - £116.33
Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speakers - £93.99

That leaves me with 38.18. A hearty lunch, or a copy of Doom 3 to show off my kickass system. Though I already have a 19" and a 21" monitor, plus 7.1 speakers, I have most of the above listed components. All I need is a new mobo and CPU plus the GFX card. With the money I could spend on an AmigaOne, I could go AMD Athlon64 Fx53, and Geforce 6800 Ultra, and still have change for another PPC A1200.

I expect I'll get flamed for this, but my point is that Amiga is NOT going to live on through the AmigaOne. Not at this price anyway.
 

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Re: Someone spell it out for me, A1 questions
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2004, 08:24:45 PM »
I'm sure your 600Mhz Peg is perfect. As for Word 2003 taking 30 seconds to load, I'm sure that's a problem with whatever PC  you were using, as it takes less than 2 on mine. I'm happy with the response of OS3.1 on WinUAE. I bought my original Amigas though, primarily to play games.

My point is AmigaOne is WAY overpriced, and already outdated, no matter how you look at it. Playing Unreal 3 it won't be.