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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« on: April 09, 2003, 11:21:14 PM »
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I`ll buy an AmigaOne or a Pegasos because it runs my beloved OS, that is the only reason that I`ll spend my money on these machines. An no UAE and Amithlon is not an option, they are emulators, not a real computer.

Note that both AmigaOS 4.0 and MorphOS has an emulated 68k layers/modules...
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2003, 11:29:09 PM »
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Because it's not PPC. Why else by a peg/a1? TheOS is largely irrelevant.

Note that AROS doesn’t run legacy software on non-68k machine.  IF it doesn’t run Amiga legacy software, why not switch to completely new OS platform (e.g. BeOS, Linux, BSD and ‘etc’)?  
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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2003, 02:09:02 AM »
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So? will I remain for the rest of my life with 68k (even if it is emulated in a PPC cpu) software?

Did you forget AREXX issue?  

My response was for "An no UAE and Amithlon is not an option, they are emulators, not a real computer."

Just be careful with "emulators".
Note that (near)native X86 AmigaOS applications can be develop on Amithlon (legal issues aside).

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Life goes on... I believe that the most important apps will be ported and new will be developed. (isn`t that the plan?)

Software investment protection is important i.e. just look at the success of X86(1)(2) and Windows(1)(2).

Reference:
1. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/Apr03/04-09AthlonOpteronPR.asp

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http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/0,,3715_8420_7823_7839,00.html

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(isn`t that the plan?)

Why not tell the world “software investment protection” is not important?

What you have stated is only part of the plan.

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So?
1> as I said many apps will be ported and new will be developed.

My post (i.e. "Posted : 2003/4/10 9:29")  was referring to  mdma's post.

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Subject : Re: GPL MorphOS?
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Why buy an A1/Pegwhen I can AROS on x86?

Because it's not PPC. Why else by a peg/a1? TheOS is largely irrelevant.
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So?
1> as I said many apps will be ported and new will be developed.

Such optimistic appraisals can even fails for the big OS vendors (e.g. Microsoft’s Windows NT 4.0(up to SP3) PPC edition).  Such software porting have limits i.e. time and money.

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2> `Cause it`s AmigaOS (or AmigaOS-like if you like) and that`s my favorite OS. Simple.

Was I referring to you? It's your problem IF you like XYZ. One may need more factors than “it's my favorite OS”. Such views are purely academic.

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Or do you stay with this platform only for its apps?

Are you saying apps is not important?

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Do you think that all these OSes have less apps or worse than ours? (Well maybe BeOS :PPP)

It seems that “software investment protection” is outside your mindset.

The strength of Windows/X86 platform is its boat anchor to legacy Windows/X86 applications. AmigaOS itself has a pretty sizable boat anchor i.e. legacy AmigaOS/68K applications.

BeOS is nice but not everyone has the time to buy/download/port/invest money to replace his or her software investments. Remember AmigaOS/68K was use to be one of the dominant platform in home computing world. BeOS was never on this level.  

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Re: GPL MorphOS?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2003, 12:15:04 AM »
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As for MorphOS, GPL is not something we are considering.


@bbrv

What about shared source like Microsoft has recenty announced?

For MS Windows CE product range, any modifications made may belong to Microsoft.  A similar license is Sun’s Open Office initiative.

With MS (i.e. Windows CE context), the entity that created the modifications may have 6-month exclusive license using this particular modifications.  

With the dual support for IA-64 and X-86-32/64 Windows (on top of MS application development), MS may not have the manpower to support multitudes of hardware configuration for Windows CE, thus their opening of Windows CE's source code.    

The last multi-platform Windows/Application venture is Windows NT 4.0 (i.e. PPC, Alpha, MIPS, X86-32). We all know what has happened to that venture i.e. running out of manpower.

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http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS6015823526.html
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